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11-03-2007, 06:57 AM
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Another point proving standards are subjective. IF MY was operating by principle instead of tradition, the wife wouldn't be wearing outrageous clothing. Seems MY forgot BIBLICAL PRINCIPLE about not drawing attention to oneself with extravegant clothing. That is just as much sin as a woman wearing pants.
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You obviously haven't been to The Rock in Sac..... they've never preached against the the above mentioned items..... M-Y's wife is one of the most eccentric dressers around!!! (pretty crazy too -- at times!!)
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11-03-2007, 07:56 AM
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Another point proving standards are subjective. IF MY was operating by principle instead of tradition, the wife wouldn't be wearing outrageous clothing. Seems MY forgot BIBLICAL PRINCIPLE about not drawing attention to oneself with extravegant clothing. That is just as much sin as a woman wearing pants.
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Perhaps "sin" is not the correct word...
Some people are just a bit flashy or have more flare than another...I wouldn't call it "sin" unless that is where the heart is.
And in my opinion, it really is all about the heart.
As someone who has known Sis. Sheila Young since she was 6 years old, I can say that she has a heart after the things of the Lord and a true love of ministry...she's much like her mother in this.
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11-03-2007, 07:59 AM
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Apparently, this is more than just a speculation...but on good authority that it has happened.
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Interesting...has it been verifed that Bishop has as well?!
When he was my pastor in the 70s and was 26 years old, he was always talking about leaving the org...what is happening today is not anything new.
What troubles me NOW is the timing and reason...
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11-03-2007, 08:17 AM
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Interesting...has it been verifed that Bishop has as well?!
When he was my pastor in the 70s and was 26 years old, he was always talking about leaving the org...what is happening today is not anything new.
What troubles me NOW is the timing and reason...
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Take it or leave it, there has been a group that has been discussing leaving for 10 years & waiting for just the very thing you mentioned and that is "Timing" .
A lot of what we are seeing in this whole thing is rooted in family ties, family rifts, and the natures of Men with certain personalities traits.
let's face it brethren, some of us are indeed competitive by nature. It's the crabs in a bucket mentality. If you've been around leadership all of your life, it's easy to spot the human side of things even the downside of it.
Let's not live in a state of denial
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11-03-2007, 08:25 AM
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Take it or leave it, there has been a group that has been discussing leaving for 10 years & waiting for just the very thing you mentioned and that is "Timing" .
A lot of what we are seeing in this whole thing is rooted in family ties, family rifts, and the natures of Men with certain personalities traits.
let's face it brethren, some of us are indeed competitive by nature. It's the crabs in a bucket mentality. If you've been around leadership all of your life, it's easy to spot the human side of things even the downside of it.
Let's not live in a state of denial
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Interesting, Thad...
Perhaps Bishop has changed in the years since he was my pastor, but I've never thought of him as being competitive...driven perhaps. He has a burning desire for souls and living the separated life, coupled with that are strong convictions.
And as I posted, he has talked of leaving as long as I've known him, and that is a lot longer than 10 years.
I just cannot imagine television being the battle "worth dying for..." His words, not mine.
It just makes no sense...
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11-03-2007, 08:35 AM
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Interesting, Thad...
Perhaps Bishop has changed in the years since he was my pastor, but I've never thought of him as being competitive...driven perhaps. He has a burning desire for souls and living the separated life, coupled with that are strong convictions.
And as I posted, he has talked of leaving as long as I've known him, and that is a lot longer than 10 years.
I just cannot imagine television being the battle "worth dying for..." His words, not mine.
It just makes no sense...
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when i used the word "competitive", i am speaking in general terms of the nature of men period, especially in leadership cirlces. No specific names.
it's undeniable. I think that Men can spot that type of personality trait in other men just as women can pick on the vibes of other women and when when women share their INTUITION lol , Men are often going " uuuh?? how'd you pick up on that"? 
When you live Thousands of miles away, folks from afar may see things from a totally different perspective then those who lived in a certain region and history, families, etc.
Barb, I didn't know he had been talking of leaving longer than 10 years. I wouldn't deny it especially when one remembers the Harvestime era and post era. what i was saying that there have been collective talks for perhaps a decade
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11-03-2007, 08:36 AM
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Myles will be the next Promotions Director of the new UC org. I'm sure he'll love it.
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11-03-2007, 08:40 AM
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Miles will be the next Promotions Director of the new UC org. I'm sure he'll love it.
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Why would he love that position? what makes you say that ?
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11-03-2007, 08:40 AM
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Why would he love that position? what makes you say that ?
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A hunch ... or maybe it's just gas from a late dinner last nite.
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11-03-2007, 08:46 AM
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when i used the word "competitive", i am speaking in general terms of the nature of men period, especially in leadership cirlces. No specific names.
it's undeniable. I think that Men can spot that type of personality trait in other men just as women can pick on the vibes of other women and when when women share their INTUITION lol , Men are often going " uuuh?? how'd you pick up on that"?
When you live Thousands of miles away, folks from afar may see things from a totally different perspective then those who lived in a certain region and history, families, etc.
Barb, I didn't know he had been talking of leaving longer than 10 years. I wouldn't deny it especially when one remembers the Harvestime era and post era. what i was saying that there have been collective talks for perhaps a decade |
I know you weren't specific, but I was just relating your post to Bishop.
Is it official, Thad?! I can't imagine SIL has turned in his credentials and FIL hasn't...JMHO...
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