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10-31-2007, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I have articulated my Oneness view here on various occassions ... but find it redundants since 99.9% of us here are ONENESS.... IF YOU MEAN I HAVE TO CONDEMN TRINITARIANS WHILE DEFENDING THE PROVERBIAL FORT... then you can have it.
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Dedend the truth and condemn the Trinitarian doctrine not the Trinitarian.
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10-31-2007, 01:41 PM
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Dedend the truth and condemn the Trinitarian doctrine not the Trinitarian.
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Actually I think sometimes Onetarians are afraid of becomming friends with those out in the mainstream...as though they will be convinced of something their pastor is doing his best to convince otherwise.
I think Onetarians also sequester themselves in their own little communities/circles/etc. and therefore can easily be considered to be elitists. I am not saying that, I am just saying that is the perception....true? False?
I don't see a whole lot of evangelistic effort being spent converting the mainstream church...just like the admonition of going into a bar or strip club to witness to the hairy unwashed.
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10-31-2007, 01:54 PM
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PastorPoster, I certainly hope this isn't an original work.... and that you just copied it off some Dr. Phil self-help e-zine or something like that.... Selfishness and carnality permiate the core of the above list....
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What is selfish about it?
I am concerned for my soul, and the souls of others around me. I have no intention of being dragged down into an abyss of mush just to save a friendship.
I will not hang around some folks for the same reason I would not go to a strip club, a bar, and an x-rated movie. I care about what I see, hear, and read. Why would I pollute myself with garbage?
How sensical is that?
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10-31-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I have articulated my Oneness view here on various occassions ... but find it redundants since 99.9% of us here are ONENESS.... IF YOU MEAN I HAVE TO CONDEMN TRINITARIANS WHILE DEFENDING THE PROVERBIAL FORT... then you can have it.
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Your percentage is a bit high there, Sparky.
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10-31-2007, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Actually I think sometimes Onetarians are afraid of becomming friends with those out in the mainstream...as though they will be convinced of something their pastor is doing his best to convince otherwise.
I think Onetarians also sequester themselves in their own little communities/circles/etc. and therefore can easily be considered to be elitists. I am not saying that, I am just saying that is the perception....true? False?
I don't see a whole lot of evangelistic effort being spent converting the mainstream church...just like the admonition of going into a bar or strip club to witness to the hairy unwashed.
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True, but I go to an independent Oneness church that tells people to come as they are and doesn't preach a clothesline salvational message.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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10-31-2007, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
What is selfish about it?
I am concerned for my soul, and the souls of others around me. I have no intention of being dragged down into an abyss of mush just to save a friendship.
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if your current friendships are making you seriously contemplate if your soul and it's eternal destination is in danger.... that alone suggests that you're in worse spiritual shape than you let on here on AFF.... you're an active pastor, correct???
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10-31-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
if your current friendships are making you seriously contemplate if your soul and it's eternal destination is in danger.... that alone suggests that you're in worse spiritual shape than you let on here on AFF.... you're an active pastor, correct???
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Woah Nelly!
Come on Mal, I have an OVERALL concern for souls - especially mine.
My point is that I have no intention of wallowing in a hogtrough with people who know truth and don't want to live it.
Your post is a bit over the top. Your admin duties do not include "spiritual seer" as far as I know.
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10-31-2007, 02:41 PM
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Bro. Y, I'll never forget...
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Woah Nelly!
Come on Mal, I have an OVERALL concern for souls - especially mine.
My point is that I have no intention of wallowing in a hogtrough with people who know truth and don't want to live it.
Your post is a bit over the top. Your admin duties do not include "spiritual seer" as far as I know.
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a) I'm sure you do have a sincere love and concern for souls.... I only asked if you pastored because your opinions/viewpoints regarding friendships could impact how you address your congregation in services and consult in counseling sessions. Am I correct??
b) I'm just posting like everyone else....
Regardless, I'm sorry if you interpreted my post as anything but sincere concern for you as a person.... 
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"Rules without relationship lead to rebellion." Dr. James Dobson
"You don't need a license to preach, or teach, or win souls." RonB
"In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)
Never tell a young person that anything cannot be done. God may have been waiting centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing. ~ John Andrew Holmes
Last edited by Malvaro; 10-31-2007 at 02:47 PM.
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10-31-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Woah Nelly!
Come on Mal, I have an OVERALL concern for souls - especially mine.
My point is that I have no intention of wallowing in a hogtrough with people who know truth and don't want to live it.
Your post is a bit over the top. Your admin duties do not include "spiritual seer" as far as I know.
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Irony.
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10-31-2007, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Actually I think sometimes Onetarians are afraid of becomming friends with those out in the mainstream...as though they will be convinced of something their pastor is doing his best to convince otherwise.
I think Onetarians also sequester themselves in their own little communities/circles/etc. and therefore can easily be considered to be elitists. I am not saying that, I am just saying that is the perception....true? False?
I don't see a whole lot of evangelistic effort being spent converting the mainstream church...just like the admonition of going into a bar or strip club to witness to the hairy unwashed.
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Did you just coin that? 
And, "hairy unwashed?" 
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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