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Old 03-03-2007, 06:18 PM
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Matt ... you were responding to all those in this thread that don't think like you ...
Again you bare false witness against me. I only read a few posts, as i do not have time to read all of them. IF my post would have been directed to anyone, I would have quoted them, as I normally do.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:19 PM
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Matt let's concede that we both used sarcasm to make our points.
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Pianoman, let me be very, very charitable...

But at the very, very least, a man that doesn't preach the essentiality of the New Birth is far outside the pale.
We can both agree on this from our worldview! The problem is that there are millions of others with a different worldview that interpret the same scriptures that we use very differently. So how do we know for sure which way is pure?

It's like every christian takes a gamble. Which ever way they chose to believe the bible, there will be a group that puts them in hell by interpretating some scripture! You just have to take a leap of faith that the church you came to Jesus in, will take you to heaven.

I believe we won't really know until judgment day. I believe I know the truth, but my history has made me bias.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:46 PM
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We can both agree on this from our worldview! The problem is that there are millions of others with a different worldview that interpret the same scriptures that we use very differently. So how do we know for sure which way is pure?

It's like every christian takes a gamble. Which ever way they chose to believe the bible, there will be a group that puts them in hell by interpretating some scripture! You just have to take a leap of faith that the church you came to Jesus in, will take you to heaven.

I believe we won't really know until judgment day. I believe I know the truth, but my history has made me bias.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:57 PM
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We can both agree on this from our worldview! The problem is that there are millions of others with a different worldview that interpret the same scriptures that we use very differently. So how do we know for sure which way is pure?

It's like every christian takes a gamble. Which ever way they chose to believe the bible, there will be a group that puts them in hell by interpretating some scripture! You just have to take a leap of faith that the church you came to Jesus in, will take you to heaven.

I believe we won't really know until judgment day. I believe I know the truth, but my history has made me bias.

I understand what you are saying, but I wouldn't say that disagreeing Christians have different "worldviews". Perhaps denominational bias - yes.
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I understand what you are saying, but I wouldn't say that disagreeing Christians have different "worldviews". Perhaps denominational bias - yes.
I used "worldview" to mean how a person views the world through his biblical belief system. "Dominational Bias" is probably a better way to say it!
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Matt let's concede that we both used sarcasm to make our points.
I'll say it again. I did not point my post at you personally. You did. This makes a difference. It is not a matter of sarcasm being a bad thing. It is that you specifically quoted me, THEREBY POINTING YOUR POST DIRECTLY AT ME, and then made my post out to be that I did not believe that Jesus saved.

To me there is a big difference.

But I will drop it from here.
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I think this insightful and thoughtful post written by Most Excellent Theophilus fits into this discussion quite well.

Check it out.
Thanks for posting this, I like Theophilus' insight into the things of God.
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I wonder sometimes if doctrinal purity isn't to be found in the "whole" body of Christ. Every "part" of the body has some truth.
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Pianoman, let me be very, very charitable...

But at the very, very least, a man that doesn't preach the essentiality of the New Birth is far outside the pale.
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