UPC Apology to Kenneth Phillips ? ? ?

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Thad

A UPC official has made his case for an apology to Kenneth Phillips for all that the UPC put him through in the 70s


your take on it

Was it 1977 or 1976 when him and Hanby left, I was a young child at the WOP at the time, so I can't remember the year, but if it was 1977, wow that would be a irony, 30 years later.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Was it 1977 or 1976 when him and Hanby left, I was a young child at the WOP at the time, so I can't remember the year, but if it was 1977, wow that would be a irony, 30 years later.

1977

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by CC1

1977

Interesting, come full circle. Maybe Kenneth will come back home.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Interesting, come full circle. Maybe Kenneth will come back home.

I wont address that one !! aint touching it with a 50 ft fishing pole !!!

[CC1]

Originally Posted by keith4him

Interesting, come full circle. Maybe Kenneth will come back home.

You still cannot have a program on TV in the UPC. Res #4 was only for advertising on TV.

Of course once the ultra con take their marbles and go home there may be enough votes to pass a broader resolution in the next few years allowing programs.

Plus KP does not teach the uncut hair doctrine nor does he preach against jewelry, makeup. or pants on women. Not exactly UPC material.

However I was in church this past Wednesday at Promiseland Austin and I counted 9 bunheads. That is a marked increase from the years I was there. I think some of it might be Suberites.

I also met two pretty girsl who were out of the O.F. David Fauss church Greater Bethel in Houston. They also had cut hair, makeup, etc. Is Fauss still UPC?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by CC1

You still cannot have a program on TV in the UPC. Res #4 was only for advertising on TV.

Of course once the ultra con take their marbles and go home there may be enough votes to pass a broader resolution in the next few years allowing programs.

Plus KP does not teach the uncut hair doctrine nor does he preach against jewelry, makeup. or pants on women. Not exactly UPC material.

However I was in church this past Wednesday at Promiseland Austin and I counted 9 bunheads. That is a marked increase from the years I was there. I think some of it might be Suberites.

I also met two pretty girsl who were out of the O.F. David Fauss church Greater Bethel in Houston. They also had cut hair, makeup, etc. Is Fauss still UPC?

CC1, the resolution allows ministry as well.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Thad

EXTRA


this was a District Official who stated that If this resolution was passed exactly 30 years ago, Kenneth PHillips would still be with us

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Maybe he would have, and maybe he wouldn't have. His flirting with trinitarians would have likely gotten him booted.

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Have a feeling Jesus would have gotten the boot too, making wine, speaking to prostitutes with no one else around.... the list goes on... :sshhh

Originally Posted by stmatthew

a little difference in reaching out to the lost, and having them teach from your pulpit the sheep God has entrusted into your care.

bump for reply from CC1

[CC1]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

bump for reply from CC1

LOL!!! It is true that KP would have never left the UPC and would most likely be a lot more conservative today had he not been pushed out of the nest back in 1977.

However he was pushed out and he did become exposed to a lot of different perspectives than the one he had grown up with. He retained the 3 stepper PAJC view of salvation but also learned that Oneness folks don't have a lock on all truth. That there are many things we can learn from Trinitarian Christians and to witness to them about Acts 2:38 you need to have dialogue with them and befriend them.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by CC1

LOL!!! It is true that KP would have never left the UPC and would most likely be a lot more conservative today had he not been pushed out of the nest back in 1977.

However he was pushed out and he did become exposed to a lot of different perspectives than the one he had grown up with. He retained the 3 stepper PAJC view of salvation but also learned that Oneness folks don't have a lock on all truth. That there are many things we can learn from Trinitarian Christians and to witness to them about Acts 2:38 you need to have dialogue with them and befriend them.

Many in the UPC believe this also - including myself.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

CC1, the resolution allows ministry as well.

bump for CC1. Did you understand the restrictive amendment to res 4 did not pass?