Hello From Tampa!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Just want to add quickly here that the ladies meeting this morning was excellent!! Especially after Vesta Mangun got involved. To me the presence of God blew into the place about the same time and after that it was just wonderful!

The speakers did excellent -- all of them -- and the music was good. Everything was done with excellence imo.

You should work for the U.N. .... J/K ... I think.

[Nahum]

Listening to Vesta Mangun is worth the registration fee!

That woman can preach!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Think of it this way Daniel.


What possible good could have come from him taking any position other than a slight right of center approach? He is trying to quell hatefulness. He is not stupid or deaf. He knows what is being said.

But civility must reign in our business session tomorrow. Look, I obviously am a little left of center, but I understand that it is so important to discuss the issue logically. The future of many men is on the line tomorrow.

It would be good, if there is any parting of ways, to do so with Christian temperance.

It just seems counter-intuitive ... when everyone and their mama knows KH is for this resolution. I know he's got to keep things together ... but his commitment to appear non-committal ... does not sit well w/ me ... there are times a leader must state his mind ... declare his stance ... lead w/ principle

... it seems the office is more important at times to some -- JMO

[Nahum]

What good would losing the office serve?

Would I like for him to blast the less than 5% minority of freaky-cons?

Absolutely!

But that will not help us tomorrow. It wouldn't help at all.

Not when he is trying to maintain order.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

What good would losing the office serve?

Would I like for him to blast the less than 5% minority of freaky-cons?

Absolutely!

But that will not help us tomorrow. It wouldn't help at all.

Not when he is trying to maintain order.

So he chooses to blast the 5% that are on the left? Why make the choice unless he is pandering?

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Well he definitely spoke in faith when he proclaimed "There is unity in our midst"

Bishop has always been a very positive man.... always sees the glass half full instead of half empty.

BTW, Dan - YOU were not in the business session today. Maybe there was a real spirit of unity there!

Anyone who was in the business meeting want to give their opinion on the "unity" that was or was not there?

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It just seems counter-intuitive ... when everyone and their mama knows KH is for this resolution. I know he's got to keep things together ... but his commitment to appear non-committal ... does not sit well w/ me ... there are times a leader must state his mind ... declare his stance ... lead w/ principle

... it seems the office is more important at times to some -- JMO

He can take a stance not can't he?

He was re-elected before he preached and before the vote is being cast!

A man who does not speak with authority to his organization.

Stands for only one thing...Length of his own term....

In politics it is the means of getting more votes....

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

He can take a stance not can't he?

He was re-elected before he preached and before the vote is being cast!

A man who does not speak with authority to his organization.

Stands for only one thing...Length of his own term....

In politics it is the means of getting more votes....

The man has a mandate ... yet he wants to keep the whole enchilada.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Bishop has always been a very positive man.... always sees the glass half full instead of half empty.

BTW, Dan - YOU were not in the business session today. Maybe there was a real spirit of unity there!

Anyone who was in the business meeting want to give their opinion on the "unity" that was or was not there?

The problem being the glass never gets refilled or moves past the half way mark!

Why!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

So he chooses to blast the 5% that are on the left? Why make the choice unless he is pandering?

Daniel, buddy, VIRTUALLY NO ONE could possibly disagree with anything he said tonight! Even us so called libs and mods.

We are all against same-sex marriage, no?
We all believe in holiness, no?
We all believe we need to be careful who we run with - even and/or especially in the UPC, no?
We have all seen or heard of those who say they are just gonna lay down holiness, only to go on to throw off doctrine as well, no?


I don't see what he said that was so offensive to mods and libs.