Can a District trump TV?

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

From what I understand they do. I know my friend that is from Burma, now a UPCI evangelist here in the states, goes to movies and he does not see it as wrong if a girl trims her hair. It is all in the mentality of it. Over in these other contries they are out to win the lost no matter what...and they do not let the dress code or other thing cloud their judgement. The fact is that it is all a part of what the culture is about. In Burma, from what I am told is, all about evangelism. They do not get caught up in the nonimportant things.

Originally Posted by pelathais

The man in question is not (apparently) licensed by the U.S. UPC, nor the Foreign Missions Department, but by the UPC of Burma (Myanmar). Thus he is under their manual and jurisdiction. If they have no prohibitions concerning movies or whatever, then he has no compulsion in the matter either.

The missionary preaching in his hometown (that is, back in Myanmar), however, is probably licensed by the US UPC and so he must avoid movies in both Myanmar and the US. The Burmese ministers, however, follow whatever strictures that they place upon themselves.

From his post, I am gathering that the missionary IS licensed here in the states, and is traveling as an evangelist.

We are both on the same page though. If it is a national license, then they are accountable to those governing bylaws. If it is a US UPC license, then they are accountable to the governing bylaws here.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by The Closer

Most of the time I might agree with you, but when you are one who has made it so very clear that the district and organization is so far out of it, then you need to learn to leave it alone, and you sir are the one who needs to get a life.

Uh...when and where did I make it so very clear that the district and organization are so far out of it?

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by The Closer

Lets see, from what I have been able to see, you are not in the organization here in Oklahoma, so really it would not matter to you and really would be none of your business in any way. I am sure that you will have some kind of twisted logic that makes it your business, but when you sent in the card, then the business of the Oklahoma District became none of yours, so what is the purpose of the question?

SHEEEESH, doesn't a guy have a right to ask a question?!?!?!?

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by The Closer

Lets see, from what I have been able to see, you are not in the organization here in Oklahoma, so really it would not matter to you and really would be none of your business in any way. I am sure that you will have some kind of twisted logic that makes it your business, but when you sent in the card, then the business of the Oklahoma District became none of yours, so what is the purpose of the question?

Knew this would be ugly with the first two words....

it's called "talking down"......... seems like maybe the "Closer" has been in a leadership position in the past??? ... interesting...

[NLYP]

It does NOT matter what trumps what....Each church is an independent identity.
OH how I would like to say something I heard from "The Horse"...but until the proper time I shall refrain.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

I answered this on the other thread, but not until late tonight. (My internet has been down all day.)

Here's the answer I provided:



I hope that helps.

Thanks for the reply...It would be very interesting to know if this in fact would encourage the conservatives that are rumered to leave if passed to just stay in and pass or uphold legislation within the confines of district policy.

In other words, conservative districts would be helped by the conservatives staying and placing district prohibitions against the use of tv....right?

It would be interesting to know if this angle has been considered by the likes of LB, VM, NW, and JJ.....

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

From my understanding, All missionaries that are send from the USA are under the governing constituency of the US UPC. The Foreign Missions Department is its own district, and they are a part of that district. So they are NOT outside of the bylaws of the constituency.

But you stated this man is no longer in missions anyway, but is evangelizing. So it really does not matter how the missions department is set up. He would have been transfered to a district other than the Missions department if he has left the missions field.

From my understanding the Foriegn Missions Dept has its own Articles of Faith and they are very different in the wording concerning standards...they also sign a different affirmation statement according to rumer...

Does anyone know if this is true?

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

SHEEEESH, doesn't a guy have a right to ask a question?!?!?!?

Thanks for replying to this person because I refuse to...the ignorance of his attack is obvious.

Yes I did leave the UPC, but i am a participating member of this discussion board and I was just wondering out loud what I wondered for years while licensed with the UPC.

I absolutely have the right to ask whatever I choose...I was just wondering if this district prohibition apporach was a way for those districts that are primarily conservative to not split over TV...and if that had been considered by anyone in that camp.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

Thanks for the reply...It would be very interesting to know if this in fact would encourage the conservatives that are rumered to leave if passed to just stay in and pass or uphold legislation within the confines of district policy.

In other words, conservative districts would be helped by the conservatives staying and placing district prohibitions against the use of tv....right?

It would be interesting to know if this angle has been considered by the likes of LB, VM, NW, and JJ.....

If the UPCI allows advertisement on TV, and the state/district can prohibit it, can they really enforce it for their member ministers, or is it just a statement of preference? Let's say the OK district keeps their prohibitive statement, no matter what goes down at conference...if a minister decides to advertise on tv anyway, since it was voted in, could he actually be kicked out? Or does the district really have that much power? Or, would it be more of a "You're not cool" "We won't fellowship with you if you do" type of thing....?

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think the question is an interesting one. Unless the UPCI is now a secret society, then the way it functions is pretty much anyone's business.

Thanks MissB....