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Old 08-23-2007, 11:06 AM
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Very good question and I don't know.
My own dad, who is normally pretty open minded about a lot of things has a bugaboo against any consoling, other than pastoral, in the church himself. It's like the idea got lodged in the head at some point and no amount of shaking will get it out, or even loose.

I am sure if Chan, if he were around, would step in at this point and proclaim the evils of consoling, but the fact is that more is needed. It is NOT a magic bullet which will end every and all abuse, but it will certainly help to make things better and head off SOME situations which could have been avoided.
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I think Chan would argue that it the "type" or philosophy behind the method of counseling used.
Maybe he's in counseling now???

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Old 08-23-2007, 11:07 AM
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Maybe he's in counseling now???

Actually, I agree with him on this point.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:13 AM
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Is it counseling or consoling? I think my spell checker has been putting the wrong word in. LOL
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:16 AM
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My perceived problem with some counseling is that it amounts to the pastor telling the woman that "her new husband is the head, makes the rules, and you better listen to HIM (after myself of course)", that amounts to counseling.
(Oh yes, and make lots of babies! Your husbands pride depends on it.....)
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:27 AM
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Bynum, husband battle in parking lot
Famous minister met spouse to reconcile, but the two fought until an Atlanta hotel bellman separated them.

By Saeed Ahmed
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/23/07

Juanita Bynum, a preacher whose fiery and frank sermons about women's empowerment have won her a national following, was attacked by her husband in the parking lot of an Atlanta hotel early Wednesday morning, police said.

Bynum, whose ministry is based in Waycross, and her estranged husband, Thomas W. Weeks III, had met at the Renaissance Concourse Hotel near Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport to try to reconcile, Atlanta police said.

But while in the parking lot about 5 a.m., the two got into a physical fight that ended when a hotel bellman pulled Bynum's husband off her, said Officer Ronald Campbell.

"She was bruised up and battered," Campbell said. "She had purple bruising around her neck and upper torso."

The husband, who is also a preacher, left the scene. No charges have been filed against him, according to police.

A popular Pentecostal evangelist, Bynum lives in Hempstead, N.Y., but her administrative offices are in Waycross in southeast Georgia. Once a homemaker, a hairdresser and a flight attendant, Bynum's big break came when Bishop T.D. Jakes invited her to speak at one of his conferences several years ago. Her ministry took off a couple of years later after she gave her unrehearsed "No More Sheets" sermon on breaking free of sexual promiscuity at a singles event.

Since then, she has parlayed her tough-love evangelism into a one-woman industry, writing several best-selling books, recording inspirational CDs and preaching to millions through televised sermons.

Her 2002 wedding to Weeks, who started the Global Destiny churches nationwide, was televised and, according to media reports, featured a 7.76-carat diamond ring.

—- Staff researcher Nisa Asokan contributed to this article.
As usual, the assumption is that he was abusing her.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:28 AM
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As usual, the assumption is that he was abusing her.
I asked a Doctor one why when a Man hits a woman he is abusing her.. but when a Woman hits a man... We don't have a name for it... ...

Most seem to say..."He must have had it coming"...
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:32 AM
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I asked a Doctor one why when a Man hits a woman he is abusing her.. but when a Woman hits a man... We don't have a name for it... ...

Most seem to say..."He must have had it coming"...
I got arrested a long time ago, over defending myself against my first wife. The laws are very biased in California and against men. That whole experience taught me never to assume that it's always the man who is at fault.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:37 AM
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I know a couple of women personally who are just plain ole mean. They will fist fight and tangle with men. One of them is married for the third time and I know that she and her first two husbands were engaged in many physical fights. She may fight this one. I just haven't heard about it if she does.

The other chick is a divorced woman who is physically abusive to her ex, for goodness sake. He has gone to her house on more than one occasion to pay child support or to pick up or talk to his children and she would slap, scratch, pinch, and spit on him. She has hit him in the face twice and broken his glasses. He has not filed a report because he does not want to "embarrass" his children. It makes me wonder what she does to the kids when he's not around......
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:38 AM
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I got arrested a long time ago, over defending myself against my first wife. The laws are very biased in California and against men. That whole experience taught me never to assume that it's always the man who is at fault.

Amen Rico. I agree.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:49 AM
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I must not be watching enough of the ol Dish Network because I have no idea who Juania Bynum is. (Did she once work at a diner?)
WB needs to take a lesson from Madea!

I bought a cd/dvd combo of WB's a while back . . . wasn't impressed. The cd reminded me of a Brittany Spears cd - not the music and lyrics, but there was some heavy computer synth voice fx that gets annoying. It's subtle, but if you listen closely you can hear it.

The dvd was a message by WB from one of TD Jakes' Megafests. It was, well, interesting. Not really biblically accurate with some of her message points, but it got the crowd going.
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