What If You Had Been Born Hitler??? - Page 4

LadyChocolate · #31 02-26-2007, 11:25 PM

Maybe some chocolate exlax!!!!!

MissBrattified · #32 02-26-2007, 11:27 PM

I have to agree with Bro. Epley on this one: Silly Question.

It has nothing to do with worthiness. None of us are more worthy than any other, regardless of the specifics of our little sins and big sins.

Personal choice is what leads one person to salvation and another to damnation.

Now, I wish I could say that I wouldn't wish hell on anyone, but ya know, to be honest, if someone hurt my kids, I'm not sure I wouldn't hope for it, maybe just for a moment. I guess I'm just not quite that perfect yet. The Lord will have to help me with that.

It's hard for me to feel any sympathy toward someone who killed hundreds of thousands of people for no reason other than his own evil gratification, but I'm sure that God would have mercy on him if he had chosen to repent. You'll just have to excuse me if I have my doubts.

I find it odd that when any disparaging word is spoken about historical figures like Hitler or Saddam or Other Evil Dictators, it's automatically translated into a "I don't care about souls" mentality. I say: Spend your time more productively winning the souls who are lost now, that you actually have the opportunity to lead in the right direction. Hitler's fate has already been decided one way or the other, and what I think about him doesn't change it, no matter which way he went.

crakjak · #33 02-26-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Salvation is not based on our own worthiness. It's based on God's grace by faith, paid for by the blood of the Son

That is so very true. Likewise, as by Adam's sin our condemnation was not based on our personal sin (unworthiness).

crakjak · #34 02-26-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I have to agree with Bro. Epley on this one: Silly Question.

It has nothing to do with worthiness. None of us are more worthy than any other, regardless of the specifics of our little sins and big sins.

Personal choice is what leads one person to salvation and another to damnation.

Now, I wish I could say that I wouldn't wish hell on anyone, but ya know, to be honest, if someone hurt my kids, I'm not sure I wouldn't hope for it, maybe just for a moment. I guess I'm just not quite that perfect yet. The Lord will have to help me with that.

It's hard for me to feel any sympathy toward someone who killed hundreds of thousands of people for no reason other than his own evil gratification, but I'm sure that God would have mercy on him if he had chose to repent. You'll just have to excuse me if I have my doubts.

I find it odd that when any disparaging word is spoken about historical figures like Hitler or Saddam, it's automatically translated into a "I don't care about souls" mentality. I say: Spend your time more productively winning the souls who are lost now, that you actually have the opportunity to lead in the right direction. Hitler's fate has already been decided one way or the other, and what I think about him doesn't change it, no matter which way he went.

If anyone deserves "endless torment" Hilter would be on the list, however I do not know the circumstances of Hitler's fears and distorted mind, so I cannot say that he killed "for no reason other that his own evil gratification".
And that is the point of the discussion, how can we adequately minister if we lack understand, this is a very valid discussion.

Of course, if you already know it all, there is no reason to participate, not you rather Bro. Steve.

MissBrattified · #35 02-26-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

If anyone deserves "endless torment" Hilter would be on the list, however I do not know the circumstances of Hitler's fears and distorted mind, so I cannot say that he killed "for no reason other that his own evil gratification".
And that is the point of the discussion, how can we adequately minister if we lack understand, this is a very valid discussion.

Well, I can say it, because that's my firm opinion, and being straightforward works for me.

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Of course, if you already know it all, there is no reason to participate, not you rather Bro. Steve.

Oh, but it's fun to point out what a silly question you have posed.

Steve Epley · #36 02-26-2007, 11:45 PM

This has to be one of the silliest threads I have read.

LadyChocolate · #37 02-26-2007, 11:46 PM

Bro Epley, I 'll give ya some chocolate to chew on while we laugh at this thread! I too find it silly!

crakjak · #38 02-26-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

How can someone who dies lost be purged and then join the redeemed?

Now Bro. Scott I know what you are digging at, but that is not the subject of this thread. Just trying to lay some ground work.

However, would you deny that it is God's will to save all the folks He created? Do you really believe He will let "that man" or humans supposed freewill hinder His ultimate intentions. Does He lack the power? Does He lack the will?

Your question is an easy one to answer, the unfathomable,incomparable, irresistible, and inescapable LOVE of God?

Steve Epley · #39 02-26-2007, 11:51 PM

If I was born Hitler I would be a Nazi and hate Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is the point????????????? I would also be judgment bound the suicide would not be the end of my troubles. God will settle His scores at the White Throne. Hitler will be there and his henchmen won't be abl to help him. And A Jew the one known as the carpenter's son will judge him.

LadyChocolate · #40 02-26-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If I was born Hitler I would be a Nazi and hate Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is the point????????????? I would also be judgment bound the suicide would not be the end of my troubles. God will settle His scores at the White Throne. Hitler will be there and his henchmen won't be abl to help him.

Are you sure ya don't want any chocolate? I have truffles, cookies, sliced cake, choc cheese cake.