Does The Apostolic Message Need Re-Packaging???? - Page 4

RevDWW · #31 07-28-2007, 05:36 PM

Have you ever seen those in the third world waiting to receive food from the UN or some other agency? They don't care what it comes in, they just want something edible that will give life and nourish them for a few more days.

I had a man in a prison service last Thursday night tell me the felt something he'd never felt before and he wanted more of it. We baptized a young man a couple of weeks ago that received the Holy Ghost in the tank, and he told us that he'd never experienced anything like it. I can guarantee that the service packaging was not anything fancy or modern

. But it was full of the Love of Jesus and that is what make the difference.

RevDWW · #32 07-28-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TalkLady

If Jesus and the apostles were alive today, do you believe they would insist on maintaining the customs of 2000 years ago - with robes and sandals?

No. But I doubt they'd be wearing Hickey Freeman suits and custom made shoes. I doubt they have to have a Rolex and and diamond studded tie pin.

StillStanding · #33 07-28-2007, 05:51 PM

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I would be interested in knowing what the statistics are on those accually having TV and Internet in 3rd world countries. Can we really reach the entire world with technology??

Understand, I am not against it per say. I just think it will just be another bandaide for the real problem.

I agree with you about the bandaid! If the church was having revival like in the New Testement, Fox News, CNN, BBC, Aljazerra and all the rest would be reporting about it!

It inevitable that eventually all the world will have TV and internet! Do we wait until that happens, or do we start NOW using all means to reach them?

RevDWW · #34 07-28-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

I agree with you about the bandaid! If the church was having revival like in the New Testement, Fox News, CNN, BBC, Aljazerra and all the rest would be reporting about it!

It inevitable that eventually all the world will have TV and internet! Do we wait until that happens, or do we start NOW using all means to reach them?

PM, are you equating means with packaging?

StillStanding · #35 07-28-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

PM, are you equating means with packaging?

I think means is PART of the packaging. Packaging is required for a TV program.

RevDWW · #36 07-28-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

I think means is PART of the packaging. Packaging is required for a TV program.

So you mean a change in presentation so it fits on TV as the change of packaging that is needed?

Maybe we should skip TV and go the WWW webcast route so we can do what we want with out having to script to a certain time period.

BoredOutOfMyMind · #37 07-28-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

So you mean a change in presentation so it fits on TV as the change of packaging that is needed?

Maybe we should skip TV and go the WWW webcast route so we can do what we want with out having to script to a certain time period.

Or push technology, where as you drive by in the car, it grabs your radio dial, changes it and broadcasts the service? Or plays using your Bluetooth phone....

(Actually Google is experimenting with this in California for business advertising- No churches signed up that I have heard of)

Felicity · #38 07-28-2007, 06:32 PM

Just preach the Gospel. It's always relevant. There's a lot of overkill in regard to this "relevance" business anyhow I think.

Don't you think?

chaotic_resolve · #39 07-28-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

Is it time to re-package the Apostolic message?

No.

#40 07-28-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

Attractive packaging gets the attention of potential consumers. If you're happy with the current level of evangelizism, don't change anything. If you want to expand and grow, make changes that will attact new people.

In my opinion, we have reached the present anemic position in the Apostolic church because we have tried to repackage the message. WE have made it possible for sin and sinners to be comfortable in our services in an effort to be Saddleback sinner friendly. We have lost the power of conviction because we are being Spiritually Correct and don't want to risk making our guests uncomfortable.

Jesus said that it was the hungry and thirsty that are going to be filled... not those attracted only by the packaging. A hungry or thirsty man could care less what the package looks like!

I will agree with the apostle and say I have nothing to preach save Jesus and him crucified. I am not sure how you make a bitter cup, a bloodied back, a crown of thorns, a reed of ridicule, a rugged cross and three nails attractive. Can you give me some pointers please?