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07-20-2007, 07:32 AM
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Also keep in mind that if oneness salvation requirements are taken into account that number would be much less than 1%.
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07-20-2007, 08:08 AM
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How many people will be in Heaven?
Not enough I am afraid!
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07-20-2007, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Over in Deep Waters, there's a thread about birth control. It was explained that some types of birth control often result in the death of an embryo, the "pill" and IUDs being examples.
Also, many embryos simply fail to implant in the uterine wall, with no help from birth control. And, there are many miscarriages at various stages of pregnancy, not to mention abortions.
If life begins at conception, all these embryos had spirits that will have eternal life. Is that correct? And every one of them will be in Heaven, correct?
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At what point they have spirits (the breath of life, making them a living soul) is not clear. However, it is wrong to presume that they will be in Heaven. Why? Because they are conceived with a sin nature and have Adam's sin imputed to them.
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If this is correct so far, then I suspect that the vast majority of Heaven's population will consist of these souls that never saw life on Earth outside of the womb, and many babies and small children who died. Depending on how many adults do wind up there, the percentage could be upwards of 99.9%, maybe more! And the numbers could be in the hundreds of billions. Most of them will not see their parents there, of course, and most of the adults that get there by their salvation (Acts 2:38!) will find a lot more of their own children there than they may have expected!
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There will indeed be a great multitude in Heaven but it will only consist of those who are washed in the blood of the Lamb.
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07-20-2007, 09:42 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Huh? Oh, I guess you mean the judgement? And some will be allowed to stay, and the rest will be sent to hell?
OK, my theory is that the number who stay will vastly outnumber those who don't. I.e., the number of unborn babies who die and children who die before reaching the age of reason will be way more than the ones who grew up and didn't get saved (regardless of how easy or hard that is) and therefore end up in hell.
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It is sad that the majority of those that will be in heaven could be those who got exempt from facing the real world and the risks of living in the context that God set in place. Sad that most Christians have bought into the concept of a God that has given up on His creation.
Can He not save the majority, or has He chosen to torture the vast majority in place of actually allowing the work of Jesus to actually accomplish its purpose? Are we wrong to oppose abortion?
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07-21-2007, 08:56 AM
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crakjak
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It is sad that the majority of those that will be in heaven could be those who got exempt from facing the real world and the risks of living in the context that God set in place. Sad that most Christians have bought into the concept of a God that has given up on His creation.
Can He not save the majority, or has He chosen to torture the vast majority in place of actually allowing the work of Jesus to actually accomplish its purpose? Are we wrong to oppose abortion?
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11-27-2008, 07:47 AM
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crakjak
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Re: How many people will be in Heaven?
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it is sad that the majority of those that will be in heaven could be those who got exempt from facing the real world and the risks of living in the context that god set in place. Sad that most christians have bought into the concept of a god that has given up on his creation.
Can he not save the majority, or has he chosen to torture the vast majority in place of actually allowing the work of jesus to actually accomplish its purpose? Are we wrong to oppose abortion? _check
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no answers????
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11-27-2008, 09:03 AM
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I believe the Gospel of Jesus
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Re: How many people will be in Heaven?
There will be plenty of room for everyone.
The New Jerusalem is coming down to the Earth, it has 3.8 billion cubic miles of space.
Then there's the Earth which will have no sea, making four times more space here available. You will be able to come and go back and forth from New Jerusalem as well as the entire universe.
Then there's all the rest of the universe, which is still expanding at 186,283 miles per second. The Bible refers to it as "world with out end".
Oh! There's plenty of room. Would God make all that space just to be empty?
Jeremiah said He made it to be inhabited.
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11-27-2008, 11:53 AM
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Re: How many people will be in Heaven?
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At what point they have spirits (the breath of life, making them a living soul) is not clear.
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I just had this same thought, if Adam became a living soul when God breathed into him, and believers received the spirit AFTER 'Jesus breathed on them and said recieve ye the Holy Ghost", then does a baby only became a living soul at the point of his first breath?
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11-27-2008, 10:32 PM
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Re: How many people will be in Heaven?
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I just had this same thought, if Adam became a living soul when God breathed into him, and believers received the spirit AFTER 'Jesus breathed on them and said recieve ye the Holy Ghost", then does a baby only became a living soul at the point of his first breath?
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Any thoughts on this?
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11-27-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: How many people will be in Heaven?
There will be ZERO people in Heaven.
"Flesh and blood shall not inherit the Kingdom...."
Am I taking this scripture out of context?
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