Canadian and American Healthcare ?

[Pragmatist]

Originally Posted by ILG

I am not for government health care. Not only for this reason, but because I don't think people who live healthy should have to be responsible for the health care of people who abuse their bodies.

Totally agree. I should not have to pay for another's poor lifestyle choices.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

Totally agree. I should not have to pay for another's poor lifestyle choices.

I wonder if Canada provides abortions?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

Totally agree. I should not have to pay for another's poor lifestyle choices.

Is Cancer a poor lifestyle choice?
What about Pneumonia?
I guess every healthcare need is based on a poor choice-right?

Based on your reasoning, Lazurus got what he deserved, and the man who fell among thieves should have looked after himself.

Yet Jesus praised the good Samaritan??? Hmmm?

I think I will go with what Jesus likes rather than the love of Money that is so prevelant south of the border.

Good news on the horizon though a majority of Americans want some system
whereby "ALL" Americans have adequate coverage-not just those with money.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Ron

Is Cancer a poor lifestyle choice?
What about Pneumonia?
I guess every healthcare need is based on a poor choice-right?

Based on your reasoning, Lazurus got what he deserved, and the man who fell among thieves should have looked after himself.

Yet Jesus praised the good Samaritan??? Hmmm?

I think I will go with what Jesus likes rather than the love of Money that is so prevelant south of the border.

Good news on the horizon though a majority of Americans want some system
whereby "ALL" Americans have adequate coverage-not just those with money.

Second time- Does the kind and loving Canadian system provide for abortions?

I work in one of the largest women's and babies hospitals in the USA and we get MANY without insurance and many from Mexico. They ALL receive the best we can offer regardless of ability to pay....and many can't.

You take all these scriptures and illustrations out of context. None apply to the state but all apply to the individual.

The Canadian government doesn't love your money???????

Ever heard of taxes?!

BTW, much of heart disease and cancer are the result of life style choices.

[CC1]

If I ever desired to be part of a Socialist healthcare system Canada would be one of the better ones.

However I don't think that day is ever going to come. Oh, I think the day will come when the Dems have their way and we will have socialized medicene, I just don't think the day will come when I desire that.

Canada has a much more homogenized populous and economy than the USA. They don't have as many lazy worthless ghetto bums for the government to take their hard earned dollars to pay for their six or seven illigetimate children,etc.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by CC1

If I ever desired to be part of a Socialist healthcare system Canada would be one of the better ones.

However I don't think that day is ever going to come. Oh, I think the day will come when the Dems have their way and we will have socialized medicene, I just don't think the day will come when I desire that.

Canada has a much more homogenized populous and economy than the USA. They don't have as many lazy worthless ghetto bums for the government to take their hard earned dollars to pay for their six or seven illigetimate children,etc.

Guess which country had the first socialized healthcare system?

[Ron]

Lest anyone think we are the USSR of the north, a part of the fees not covered under Basic Medical coverage in the Province of B.C.

Services Not Covered by MSP -(Medical Service Plan of B.C.)

MSP does not provide coverage for the following:

* services that are deemed to be not medically required, such as cosmetic surgery;
* dental services, except as outlined under benefits;
* routine eye examinations for persons 19 to 64 years of age;
* eyeglasses, hearing aids, and other equipment or appliances;
* prescription drugs (see PharmaCare);
* chiropractic, massage therapy, naturopathy, physical therapy and non-surgical podiatry services (except for MSP beneficiaries with premium assistance status);
* preventive services and screening tests not supported by evidence of medical effectiveness (for example, routine annual "complete" physical examinations, whole body CT scans, prostate specific antigen (PSA) tests);
* services of counsellors or psychologists;
* medical examinations, certificates or tests required for:
o driving a motor vehicle
o employment
o life insurance
o school or university
o recreational and sporting activities
o immigration purposes

[Pragmatist]

Originally Posted by Ron

Is Cancer a poor lifestyle choice?
What about Pneumonia?

Research has shown that cancer is definitely linked to diet and exercise. So I would say a good number of cancer cases are poor lifestyle choices.

Smokers are much more likely to have lung problems, including pneumonia, so once again, yes a lot of cases are poor lifestyle choices.

[TRIPLE E]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

Research has shown that cancer is definitely linked to diet and exercise. So I would say a good number of cancer cases are poor lifestyle choices.

Smokers are much more likely to have lung problems, including pneumonia, so once again, yes a lot of cases are poor lifestyle choices.

I know of a lady never smoked a day in her life but has lung cancer due to the working environment and second hand smoke from smokers. Nothing to do with poor lifestyle choices!

I thank God He has blessed us with such a wonderful country and healthcare system.It has its flaws but the pros sure outweigh the cons.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by TRIPLE E

I know of a lady never smoked a day in her life but has lung cancer due to the working environment and second hand smoke from smokers. Nothing to do with poor lifestyle choices!

I thank God He has blessed us with such a wonderful country and healthcare system.It has its flaws but the pros sure outweigh the cons.

There are no studies that have shown conclusively that second hand smoking causes cancer.