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I was reading this the other day, and I remembered now. The people of God were not only in the Roman empire. They were spread out over other empires too.

Here the Christians in the territory of the Sasanian empire:





The Sasanian empire persecuted Christians as well, on and off, during its dominion. Probably everywhere Christians went, were persecuted. We know about Roman persecution the most because of our Western history records, and just culture.

The same with the Islamic Caliphates nations, persecutions, on and off, while the Pope was in power too.

I think the idea that the prophetic focuses on the people of God who are dispersed across empires, but also on the promise land on the Middle East and what happens there makes the most sense.


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[Daniel 2:29, 39 NKJV] 29 "As for you, O king, thoughts came [to] your [mind while] on your bed, [about] what would come to pass after this; and He who reveals secrets has made known to you what will be. ... 39 "But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.

I think the prophecy is indeed about the fate of Babylon's dominion and its relationship with the promise land.
Can you give me your definition of the Promise Land?
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Re: 3.5 years or 1260 years

Joel Richardson is an Islamic scholar.

Joel Richardson's sources for documentation for his articles aside from the Christian Bible, include:

1. Islamic texts and teachings:
- The Quran
- Hadith (collections of Muhammad's sayings and actions)
- Islamic eschatology and apocalyptic literature
2. Historical accounts and writings:
- Works by Islamic historians and scholars, such as Ibn Kathir and Al-Tabari
- Historical records of Islamic conquests and empires
3. Contemporary Middle Eastern and Islamic sources:
- News articles and reports from Middle Eastern media outlets
- Statements and writings from Islamic leaders, scholars, and politicians
4. Books and research by other authors and experts:
- Works on Islamic eschatology, terrorism, and Middle Eastern politics
- Research by scholars like Samuel Shahid, Walid Shoebat, and Daniel Pipes
5. Online resources and documentaries:
- Websites and documentaries focused on Islamic extremism, terrorism, and Middle Eastern issues

Some specific sources he has mentioned or referenced in his books and lectures include:

- "The Quran" (translated by Yusuf Ali or Pickthall)
- "The Hadith" (collections by Bukhari, Muslim, or Abu Dawud)
- "The History of Al-Tabari"
- "The Apocalypse of Muhammad" (a medieval Islamic text)
- "The Book of the End" by Ibn Kathir
- "The Dajjal: The Anti-Christ" by Muhammad Isa Dawud
- "The Islamic Antichrist" by Samuel Shahid
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An interesting article

https://www.zwemercenter.com/joel-ri...-islamophobia/
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Now, I remember. Perry Stone mentioned this when he brought up his eschatology concerning an Islamic beast. Also Brandon Biggs says Jesus told him that the Antichrist/Beast is the Saudi Prince. I guess maybe he also examined this writer as well?
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The crushing of the Serpent seed is the Arabs?

I bet the Zionists love this guy.
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Yup, Joel is a futurist.

Relating Biggs with him is kind of funny though. He criticized Dana Cornerstone in his podcast when he came out from the Biblical standpoint.

But anyway, if you want to attack him as a person to discredit him you will probably find something.

I personally found his ideas interesting, and I built my own ideas I posted here inspired in his, but finally disagreeing with his. In fact my idea of the Sasanian empire being the seventh short living kingdom in Rev 17 appears to be very new. I can’t find anyone presenting it before on Google.
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By the way, he is part of a missionary ministry targeted at Islamic nations.

https://catalyticministries.com/

See the YouTube channel too. It is quite interesting, interviewing Christians from Islamic nations.

You should read the beginning of the Islamic Antichrist book so you see how he started to realize that the Islam was the beast.

I don’t think he is Arabophobic, but he does call Islam for what it is, and that doesn’t play nicely with the modern Western environment.
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By the way, he is part of a missionary ministry targeted at Islamic nations.

https://catalyticministries.com/

See the YouTube channel too. It is quite interesting, interviewing Christians from Islamic nations.

You should read the beginning of the Islamic Antichrist book so you see how he started to realize that the Islam was the beast.

I don’t think he is Arabophobic, but he does call Islam for what it is, and that doesn’t play nicely with the modern Western environment.


I was looking for a summary online of what he believed without having to read his book and was surprised by some of his sources. Does he draw heavily on Islamic writings to develop his doctrine?
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Joel Richardson is a Christian Zionist.

That my dear friends explains his eschatology.

Jesus is coming back to save Modern Israel.

That is Joel Richardson's linchpin.
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