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06-27-2007, 09:55 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Island
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
Better question. Ask them if Jesus is the Father.
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Gesh, BP, that is the same question. Symantics. If you had a tv channel or radio program your tag line would be "Semantics Anytime, Semantics All the Time."
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
Have you ever asked a trinitarian if they believe Jesus is God? I have, over and over... and EVERY TIME their answer has made all of the Oneness preachers who said they do not to be liars.
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I agree with you Sheltie. I have spent tons of time speaking with trinitarians about their view of the God head. You are right. I think that many preachers take the stance they do, because if there is good there is evil. So if they deem themselves good and they are oneness then the trinitarians are the opposite. Oneness preachers talk about Trinitarians as if they are ugly duckling or something.
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06-27-2007, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Gesh, BP, that is the same question. Symantics. If you had a tv channel or radio program your tag line would be "Symantics Anytime, Symantics All the Time."
I agree with you Sheltie. I have spent tons of time speaking with trinitarians about their view of the God head. You are right. I think that many preachers take the stance they do, because if there is good there is evil. So if they deem themselves good and they are oneness then the trinitarians are the opposite. Oneness preachers talk about Trinitarians as if they are ugly duckling or something.
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Worse Bro - they label trinitarians as pagans, dogs, deceivers, and false prophets... and actually some worse
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06-27-2007, 09:59 AM
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Don't ask.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by sola gratia
Perhaps they have just been decieved by their mother the Catholic church 
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06-27-2007, 10:01 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by sola gratia
Worse Bro - they label trinitarians as pagans, dogs, deceivers, and false prophets... and actually some worse
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Can you say family reunion! I think it so funny in a negative way how people discount other family memebers and others that do not "see" it the same way. I think that it is straight ups STUPID for someone to effectively ........ someone to hell for not seeing the Godhead or a baptism formula the same way. Plan stupid.
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06-27-2007, 10:02 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
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We had better be careful what we say.
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06-27-2007, 10:04 AM
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And no one is saying that it doesn't go both ways, it is just discouraging every time that you realize that something that was pounded into your head for your entire life is not true, and all it takes is a civil conversation with the "accused" to find this out.
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06-27-2007, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
And no one is saying that it doesn't go both ways, it is just discouraging every time that you realize that something that was pounded into your head for your entire life is not true, and all it takes is a civil conversation with the "accused" to find this out.
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HUGE AMEN!!!
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06-27-2007, 10:14 AM
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LOL - love the signature by the way
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It's hard to debate anything when the other side believes that any logical thought means you have been sent a delusion...
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06-27-2007, 10:19 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
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I have always tried to live my life being as kind as possible to all regardless of the church or belief. Some do actually believe in 3 different Gods and others believe like we do...
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06-27-2007, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
Didn't know that those who deny Jesus being God alone can still make it to Heaven. Did not know that those who believe that there are those beside God will make Heaven their home?
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Jesus isn't God alone, He's also the "only begotten Son" of God - or do you deny what Jesus said in John 3:16 about God giving His "only begotten Son"?
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Can you give me scripture that says God does not care what you think about Him, that you can make Heaven your home without the truth? How about that one can worship a god birthed in paganism and Babylonian mysticism and still make Heaven your home?
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This statement proves you don't know what you're talking about.
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BTW, when we do this, we disregard Paul's words in Galatians 1:8-9, 2John 9-11, and Revelation 22:18-19. But, what do I know? I mean, I just believe with a sincere conviction that scriptures speaks clearly on these issues. Guess, guess I am too hard.
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I wasn't aware that Paul wrote (or was quoted in) 2 John and Revelation in addition to writing Galatians.
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