Coup in progress

[Esaias]

However, this ain't going to happen if YOU Christian are just sitting around waiting for the rapture or death.

Paul said we are at war, and this warfare is an ideological war (2 Cor 10:3-6). YOU Christian must wage war by casting down ideas and paradigms and thought processes that are contrary to Christ, the incarnate WORD of God. It must vr done in your own mind, your family and how it operates and lives, and must be spread to others whom you meet - neighbors, coworkers, etc.

You need to pass it on to your children and grandchildren. They need to take up the Cause and continue the Struggle. Your family grows and becomes a collection of families (your kids' families), all (hopefully) working towards the same overall Goal. That's the beginning of tribe, and of nation. The church is supposed to be families united together in the common Cause, literally an alternative society and culture.

Quit wasting time on silly stuff that doesn't actually get anything done. We are to speak with the enemies in the gates (town hall, city council, county commissioner's court, the statehouse, etc). But that won't happen unless we have a truly Divine Message to bring to the gates. That is, we have to drop these hand me down political ideologies and ways of thinking, and get back to THE WORD. That is the Message we need to bring.

Promotion comes from God, and we have been enthroned with Christ as heirs of His Kingdom. Until we realize that, and act on it in faith, we're just going to be statistics and victims of the culture of death that surrounds us. Sadly, most of us already are victims.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esaias

However, this ain't going to happen if YOU Christian are just sitting around waiting for the rapture or death.

Paul said we are at war, and this warfare is an ideological war (2 Cor 10:3-6). YOU Christian must wage war by casting down ideas and paradigms and thought processes that are contrary to Christ, the incarnate WORD of God. It must vr done in your own mind, your family and how it operates and lives, and must be spread to others whom you meet - neighbors, coworkers, etc.

You need to pass it on to your children and grandchildren. They need to take up the Cause and continue the Struggle. Your family grows and becomes a collection of families (your kids' families), all (hopefully) working towards the same overall Goal. That's the beginning of tribe, and of nation. The church is supposed to be families united together in the common Cause, literally an alternative society and culture.

Quit wasting time on silly stuff that doesn't actually get anything done. We are to speak with the enemies in the gates (town hall, city council, county commissioner's court, the statehouse, etc). But that won't happen unless we have a truly Divine Message to bring to the gates. That is, we have to drop these hand me down political ideologies and ways of thinking, and get back to THE WORD. That is the Message we need to bring.

Promotion comes from God, and we have been enthroned with Christ as heirs of His Kingdom. Until we realize that, and act on it in faith, we're just going to be statistics and victims of the culture of death that surrounds us. Sadly, most of us already are victims.

Personally, and forgive me, but this post is hard to take from you after all of your fearmongering, tin-foil hat threads and posts.

In the midst of some of your good scriptural arguments and debates, you come forth appearing to hold a pretty good level of fear. Perfect love casts out fear. Sorry, just sayin'... I don't like that.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Personally, and forgive me, but this post is hard to take from you after all of your fearmongering, tin-foil hat threads and posts.

In the midst of some of your good scriptural arguments and debates, you come forth appearing to hold a pretty good level of fear. Perfect love casts out fear. Sorry, just sayin'... I don't like that.

PO, so you believe all is well, and that we have nothing much to be concerned about? Do we have anything to be concerned about? If the answer is yes, then what? Believe me, I understand the whole it can't possibly happen to us ideology. But, what say ye? Can you see anything possible in our brother's post?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

PO, so you believe all is well, and that we have nothing much to be concerned about? Do we have anything to be concerned about? If the answer is yes, then what? Believe me, I understand the whole it can't possibly happen to us ideology. But, what say ye? Can you see anything possible in our brother's post?

First, glad that you are doing well!

I don't believe there is anything wrong with a discussion, for instance, on the elephant in the room concerning Border security, in that, the Democrats are holding out for Amnesty so that the 700,000 plus DACA recipients could change the voting demographics in their favor for years to come. It is VERY easy to convince even Christians in a foreign country to depend on free handouts and thus, move more toward Communism - as per a recent Missionary who spoke at our church. As we see, the Democratic Party is moving closer to that view. Kamala Harris saying to Brett Kavanaugh, referring to the Constitution he had present at his hearing, "That little book you carry." Those are things worthy to report to a voter for consideration.

What I am not good with is chemtrails, and pretending to know that Michael Cohen has a black eye when he looks like that all the time and he did have minor shoulder surgery. The ridiculous websites all saying "possible" black eye being overlooked for an emphatic black eye is tin-foil.

And what if there were chemtrails for instance? Who cares? What are you and I going to do about it? Nothing. So, why post that on an Apostolic Forum. Spirit filled people who should know, more than anyone, about the closeness and power of God.

I am listening to this right now on C-Span:

Armstrong Williams and Leonard Steinhorn on Race Relations

Columnist Armstrong Williams and author Leonard Steinhorn talked about race relations in the United States.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?457054...e-relations-us

It's a good discussion and Armstrong is making the more logical points, IMO.

There are some subjects that are more logical to discuss and some that just come across as fear mongering. JMO.

[Michael The Disciple]

Pressing On

In the midst of some of your good scriptural arguments and debates, you come forth appearing to hold a pretty good level of fear. Perfect love casts out fear. Sorry, just sayin'... I don't like that.

We have been taught wrong on the meaning of perfect love casts out fear. Please check out this short video I did a while back.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We have been taught wrong on the meaning of perfect love casts out fear. Please check out this short video I did a while back.

I will have to listen to it later. My understanding is that Jesus Christ is perfect love. When we draw closer to Him, He casts out fear.

Came back to add that I listened to it. I don't disagree, except that in I John 4:17 - Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

His love that is perfected in us, by obedience to Him - He is the Word - casts out fear here ("...so are we in this world."), as well as on the day of judgment. The closer we get to Him, the less fear we have living now.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

First, glad that you are doing well!

I don't believe there is anything wrong with a discussion, for instance, on the elephant in the room concerning Border security, in that, the Democrats are holding out for Amnesty so that the 700,000 plus DACA recipients could change the voting demographics in their favor for years to come. It is VERY easy to convince even Christians in a foreign country to depend on free handouts and thus, move more toward Communism - as per a recent Missionary who spoke at our church. As we see, the Democratic Party is moving closer to that view. Kamala Harris saying to Brett Kavanaugh, referring to the Constitution he had present at his hearing, "That little book you carry." Those are things worthy to report to a voter for consideration.

What I am not good with is chemtrails, and pretending to know that Michael Cohen has a black eye when he looks like that all the time and he did have minor shoulder surgery. The ridiculous websites all saying "possible" black eye being overlooked for an emphatic black eye is tin-foil.

And what if there were chemtrails for instance? Who cares? What are you and I going to do about it? Nothing. So, why post that on an Apostolic Forum. Spirit filled people who should know, more than anyone, about the closeness and power of God.

I am listening to this right now on C-Span:



It's a good discussion and Armstrong is making the more logical points, IMO.

There are some subjects that are more logical to discuss and some that just come across as fear mongering. JMO.

Thank you.

Yet, my question was, can you see anything possible in Esaias' post?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Quit wasting time on silly stuff that doesn't actually get anything done.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Thank you.

Yet, my question was, can you see anything possible in Esaias' post?

Yes, I believe not reading his tin-foil, fear mongering threads is possible.

I can then finish my two paintings today. Well, at least one.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Personally, and forgive me, but this post is hard to take from you after all of your fearmongering, tin-foil hat threads and posts.

In the midst of some of your good scriptural arguments and debates, you come forth appearing to hold a pretty good level of fear. Perfect love casts out fear. Sorry, just sayin'... I don't like that.

Fear mongering tinfoil? Really?

Okie dokie.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We have been taught wrong on the meaning of perfect love casts out fear. Please check out this short video I did a while back.

What's sad is the amount of modernists bending over backwards to explain (away) the fear of God into something warm and fuzzy and vague like "respect".