The Minority Report - Page 4

navygoat1998 · #31 10-16-2018, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

They bring up the hierarchy of the UPCI not having any blacks in office and point to the PAW as having two previous Prelates who were white. That was in the 70s and 80s. Since then, every Prelate has been black and the current hierarchy of the PAW is solely black.

Let's not pretend the PAW is some perfect organization without any preference to race.

The comment section of the FB video is sad, so much hate and division.

Wasn't surprised to see an old AFFer in the comment section.

Hope this couple is happy with the result of their bitter video. Instead of being part of a solution which brings people together, they've opened up more bitterness and caused even more division.

I was going to take a look at the video, but for what. Not any church or movement is perfect. Each is made up of people who are imperfect at best.

Evang.Benincasa · #32 10-16-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83

Thank you.

God is doing some things in my life and I am choosing to think differently...doing my best to think as He would have me think not according to traditions or culture whether it be church or political leanings.

Its been pretty trippy but in a good way...Ive had a lot of forgiving to do for legitimate pain...but freedom feels much better than self justification for my excuses as to why I should not obey Him.

Evang.Benincasa · #33 10-16-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I was going to take a look at the video, but for what. Not any church or movement is perfect. Each is made up of people who are imperfect at best.

You aren't missing anything you haven't heard any disgruntled person say before. It is all personal, you and I don't know the whole story. They could be the most angelic godly people on the planet, or the biggest devils that ever wore clothes. They made the video not to tell their story, but to find others with similar stories to wake them up to storm the ecclesiastical Bastille. While they ask for people not to leave the organization, but to stay to vote in change. They are actually offering no spiritual forgiveness to move on. Again, I don't know their story, this is what I gathered from their "video" But Charnock hit a home run on how people use Social Media to not only to their own hurt, but the hurt of others. People who are sitting in a church just a little confused on their direction could be hijacked by the words of this pastor and his wife. While they may have good intentions, those good intentions could pave the way to hell.

1ofthechosen · #34 10-16-2018, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

They complained that the UPCI approach to the black community focuses on "poverty" and that's racist. Meanwhile, just below that article we have this:

Well-known social justice advocate and pastor of Greenleaf Christian Church in Goldsboro, North Carolina, William J. Barber II, has been announced as one of 25 people to receive a MacArthur "genius" fellowship that comes with an unrestricted $625,000 grant.
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Barber is being recognized for "building broad-based fusion coalitions as part of a moral movement to confront racial and economic inequality."

The moral movement is the Poor People's Campaign which makes a national call for moral revival.

Good eye bro! Lol enough said!

1ofthechosen · #35 10-16-2018, 07:08 PM

So they think even Gender should be removed from the manual? And women should be able to be at the district level? Well there shouldn't even be women Pastors, but if they did any of that, that would be super unbiblical. I can see why they made the video, they just started it off with the racism to get a response. But truthfully, that whole women should be able to hold office at the district level was the real reason they were shunned for 6 years, and rightly so. They might as well have unisex bathrooms also, if they did that!

Evang.Benincasa · #36 10-16-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

So they think even Gender should be removed from the manual? And women should be able to be at the district level? Well there shouldn't even be women Pastors, but if they did any of that, that would be super unbiblical. I can see why they made the video, they just started it off with the racism to get a response. But truthfully, that whole women should be able to hold office at the district level was the real reason they were shunned for 6 years, and rightly so. They might as well have unisex bathrooms also, if they did that!

There shouldn't be women pastors?

Just pastors? What about women General Superintendents? District Superintendents?

As far as ministry what can they do, and what can they not do?