Judged By A Bearded Man

[JamesGlen]

Isaiah 50:6 I gave My back to those who struck Me,And My cheeks to those who plucked out the beard, I did not hide My face from shame and spitting.


I guess they plucked out his eyebrows, not his beard.

Just one of a Bible full of beards...

Prissy pastors not allowing men to be in Their(not Jesus’) kingdom via church ministries, because they don’t hide God given gender distinction.
Biblical beards for thousands of years and along comes prissy Pentecost pastors trying to castrate the men, so they’ll supposedly look more holy like “leadership”. What a crock.

I recently heard the “catch all” age old answer for not allowing beards in church ministry just last week... The Bible says to obey those that have the rule over you!

What if all these prissy pastors would tell everyone they must grow facial hair to be in ministry. Well, you by golly better obey that too because they have the rule over you!

Got to love the backup catch all quote too, which is always, “well, I don’t think beards are a heaven or hell issue....” which is to imply that beards are a “borderline sinful” issue, like a “weight to beset you”, yet there is more scripture for men commonly having a beard than not having them.

This has been a terrible misfortune in modern day supposed Pentecost, that is hopefully changing...Tons of ministry opportunities have been lost because of prissy pastors requiring foolish unscriptural burdens on men that want to be men, including having a beard.

[berkeley]

Tell is how you really feel.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

Isaiah 50:6 I gave My back to those who struck Me,And My cheeks to those who plucked out the beard, I did not hide My face from shame and spitting.


I guess they plucked out his eyebrows, not his beard.

Just one of a Bible full of beards...

Prissy pastors not allowing men to be in Their(not Jesus’) kingdom via church ministries, because they don’t hide God given gender distinction.
Biblical beards for thousands of years and along comes prissy Pentecost pastors trying to castrate the men, so they’ll supposedly look more holy like “leadership”. What a crock.

I recently heard the “catch all” age old answer for not allowing beards in church ministry just last week... The Bible says to obey those that have the rule over you!

What if all these prissy pastors would tell everyone they must grow facial hair to be in ministry. Well, you by golly better obey that too because they have the rule over you!

Got to love the backup catch all quote too, which is always, “well, I don’t think beards are a heaven or hell issue....” which is to imply that beards are a “borderline sinful” issue, like a “weight to beset you”, yet there is more scripture for men commonly having a beard than not having them.

This has been a terrible misfortune in modern day supposed Pentecost, that is hopefully changing...Tons of ministry opportunities have been lost because of prissy pastors requiring foolish unscriptural burdens on men that want to be men, including having a beard.

I recently heard the “catch all” age old answer for not allowing beards in church ministry just last week... The Bible says to obey those that have the rule over you!

Exactly. Thats whats its about. Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

[BuckeyeBukaroo]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Is it ranting to ask a reasonable question? Is there any reason to think Jesus does not CURRENTLY have a beard since we know he had one in his earthly sojourn?

I imagine that the God of Mercy will extend His Mercies to the bearded as well as the unbearded, the circumcised and the uncircumcised, the blue-eyed, green-eyed, and the brown-eyed.

[Michael The Disciple]

Elder Urshan emphatically made clear that he wasn't saying that beards were sin. You know that, because you started a thread about association. Plain and simple. This is much a do about nothing. That is what you don't get. You harp on this one thing while you yourself teach that Elijah died of natural causes and that his chariot of fire was a taxi to some mountain top? Adding to God's word? Mike, you aren't as spotless as you would lead us to believe.

Scripture bears out what I teach about immortality.

Is Elijah immortal?

1 Tim. 6:14-16

14That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;

The answer is no he does not. Paul writes ONLY JESUS HAS IMMORTALITY.

If Elijah is immortal Paul was no Apostle.

As Pastor P.E. Kennedy's wife Sister C Kennedy use to always say, make your words soft and sweet for in some day you'll have to eat. Listen, Elder Nathaniel Urshan made his bones. He as his father Elder Andrew Urshan worked hard in the Apostolic Pentecostal movement. They built churches, and watch them grow. You don't like their platform standard, be that as it may. Don't ever set a foot in their camps, their buildings, or meetings.

I owe the UPC. I learned Oneness from them. I have eaten my words on ALL foundation doctrines that I was falsely taught including immortal soul which would have Elijah alive right now. But of course it would have millions of others alive also DESPITE the fact PAUL TAUGHT JESUS ONLY HAS IMMORTALITY.

Dont set foot in their meetings? They (whoever they are) are busy making sure that multitudes of men along with their wives and children will not be in their meetings. ! Identifying them with gays and drug dealers, rebellious spirits and others taking every bit of welcome away from them.

[consapente89]

I don’t get the claim that multitudes have been turned away from the Oneness message over beards??? If it was revealed to them and they fell in love with it, something as trivial as facial hair wouldn’t turn them away. Circumcision didn’t turn Timothy away from ministry!! MTD...you would have backslid if Paul was your pastor. He might have made you shave to preach to the Apostolics in America AND cut your .... to preach to the Jews.

This obsession is incredibly unhealthy.

[n david]

Mike believes if the UPC dumped the beard prohibition, "tens of thousands" would suddenly come to their churches.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by JamesGlen

Isaiah 50:6 I gave My back to those who struck Me,And My cheeks to those who plucked out the beard, I did not hide My face from shame and spitting.


I guess they plucked out his eyebrows, not his beard.

Just one of a Bible full of beards...

Prissy pastors not allowing men to be in Their(not Jesus’) kingdom via church ministries, because they don’t hide God given gender distinction.
Biblical beards for thousands of years and along comes prissy Pentecost pastors trying to castrate the men, so they’ll supposedly look more holy like “leadership”. What a crock.

I recently heard the “catch all” age old answer for not allowing beards in church ministry just last week... The Bible says to obey those that have the rule over you!

What if all these prissy pastors would tell everyone they must grow facial hair to be in ministry. Well, you by golly better obey that too because they have the rule over you!

Got to love the backup catch all quote too, which is always, “well, I don’t think beards are a heaven or hell issue....” which is to imply that beards are a “borderline sinful” issue, like a “weight to beset you”, yet there is more scripture for men commonly having a beard than not having them.

This has been a terrible misfortune in modern day supposed Pentecost, that is hopefully changing...Tons of ministry opportunities have been lost because of prissy pastors requiring foolish unscriptural burdens on men that want to be men, including having a beard.

James do you shave?

James are you still in the UPCI?

If the guy says it isn't a heaven or hell issue then it isn't sin? Right Jimmy?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Mike believes if the UPC dumped the beard prohibition, "tens of thousands" would suddenly come to their churches.

Mike isn't that easy to please bro. The only way for any of us to walk right and spit white is to follow Mike's definitions and interpretations. UPCI is jacked up but spooky Missy Edward is all good?

Whatever.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I don’t get the claim that multitudes have been turned away from the Oneness message over beards???

It is coming from guy who sits in a room behind a screen. Whose idea of church is live streaming. Thank Jesus he doesn't have a week long black out. He shrivel up. Listen it is like the ant criticizing the lion on the proper way to take down a gazelle. The whole "multitudes have been turned away from the Oneness message over" is baloney. It usually comes out of the mouths of jokers who have sat on pews who in their minds always thought they could do it better than the pastor. They look at the Industrial Church Complex and are enamoured by its size. But on the Mike side of things it is becoming more like his rendition of Hebrew, where we don't learn the language, but just memorize a few words, and names. Dumping G O D for YAH. What are we Dutch? Grow a beard, knock yourself out, but if the church FAMILY are happy with NO BEARDS then leave them alone. James Glen has never been over a church family and has shown himself to be a crying sniveler. Prissy pastor? James I feel sorry for the poor guy who has to cash your tithe check. You probably feel you are paying him.

Originally Posted by consapente89

If it was revealed to them and they fell in love with it, something as trivial as facial hair wouldn’t turn them away.

Love removes all offense. It is the ones who sit on the pew hotter than a roof in the Florida Keys. staring the elders down while planning on reinventing the wheel.

Originally Posted by consapente89

Circumcision didn’t turn Timothy away from ministry!! MTD...you would have backslid if Paul was your pastor. He might have made you shave to preach to the Apostolics in America AND cut your .... to preach to the Jews.

This obsession is incredibly unhealthy.

Timothy had a Judean mother and his father was Greek, unlike Titus who was all Greek. Paul understood that he needed to make sure that Timothy was circumcised due the religious Judeans knowledge of Timothy's parents. But Mike doesn't care. He just believes it's wrong for a man to shave. I guess he has never caught a welding spark in the beard.

Paul came also to Derbe and Lystra. A disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer; but his father was a Greek. He was well spoken of by the brethren at Lystra and Iconium. Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him; and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews that were in those places, for they all knew that his father was a Greek.