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06-26-2018, 10:47 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
And is the sermon on the Mount, holiness?
Would it be Hell if we refuse to lend? If we refuse to go the second mile? If we lay up treasures on Earth? If we dont pray for our enemy?
What about meekness? If one walks in arrogance will they make Heaven their home? As Amanah mentioned earlier what about self defence?
Why do discussions of outward holiness become very specific, but heart purity is left very general?
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06-26-2018, 10:52 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
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And is the sermon on the Mount, holiness?
Would it be Hell if we refuse to lend? If we refuse to go the second mile? If we lay up treasures on Earth? If we dont pray for our enemy?
What about meekness? If one walks in arrogance will they make Heaven their home? As Amanah mentioned earlier what about self defence?
Why do discussions of outward holiness become very specific, but heart purity is left very general?
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I think Matthew 5 and Galatians 5 are foundational to holiness.
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06-26-2018, 11:12 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
Holiness is separation to God. That means doing things His Way, by the Book, led by the Spirit, in everything. Period.
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06-26-2018, 11:17 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
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Holiness is separation to God. That means doing things His Way, by the Book, led by the Spirit, in everything. Period.
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I am currently reading
By This Standard: The Authority of God's Law Today Paperback – 2008
by Greg L. Bahnsen
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All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. ~Tolkien
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06-26-2018, 11:21 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
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I am currently reading
By This Standard: The Authority of God's Law Today Paperback – 2008
by Greg L. Bahnsen
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Make sure you give us a brief review, what you thought about it. (I haven't read it, BTW.)
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06-30-2018, 03:13 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
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Yes, but the motive must be love.
Galatians 5:22-23King James Version (KJV). But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
1 Corinthians 13
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body [a]to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
Holiness is obeying the bible out of love for God and my fellow human beings |
So, then, the phrase "God is love" and "God is holy" are inter-connected, convergent streams of the nature and being of God? I like it!
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06-30-2018, 03:15 AM
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Re: Holiness or Hell thread
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One area that I find confusing is bloodshed
- self defense vs turn the other cheek
- defending our country vs conscientious objectors
- capital punishment vs abstaining from bloodshed
Is there a difference on how we deal with the above between the OT and NT? |
The answer, I think, lies somewhere in "You have heard it said...but I say unto you..."
The "you have heard it said" would be OT, and the "but I say unto you..." would be NT, with Christ as the pivot point from the one to the other.
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07-28-2018, 08:43 AM
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