The Unhappy Gay's - Page 4

1ofthechosen · #31 05-28-2018, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelRose

I think you are the first person to ask those questions without using a condescending tone.

I need to construct a thoughtful answer. Initially I was going raise the subject when I noticed several people mention some of the song writers (LW and GD) who were in our fellowship long ago. Those song writers ran into problems and left the organization. There were plenty of rumors and all you have to do is did hunt around the internet to find them.

Let us perform a test: let us watch which two make fun of me. I will use their comments to dictate what I do next. I will be completely honest. As of yet I have not found any apostolic forum that has any idea what they are talking about when it comes to something they do not understand.

The first time I pushed back slightly I was drawn to look like something terrible. I laughed to myself. If they only known who I really was. I do have a tragic flaw; I tend to hesitate when I know I am right about something.

I will call out one person publicly who I envy and that is Aquila. He is bold, he is thoughtful and can give an account with Bible verses as to what he believes. As far as I can tell he is defending the faith and seems to be willing to always have a cheerful comment. I do not know. I am not satisfied with my fellowship in our town. I grew up in possibly the most famous apostolic "mega" church we have. I am 99% convinced the home based church will be the future (the 501C3 church is just an albatross around the necks of those who buy into that model). My favorite part of the Bible is the book of Acts. Yet it seems the Apostles had problem keeping everyone on the "same page." Even the Apostles did not agree on things and had split ups. Hundreds of people on this web site and only one or two that are not filled with anger.

It is good thing no one we expect to win to Christ shows up here: if I was not saved I would have left after the second day.

All I have to say is "what in the Same Hill is really being said in this post."

houston · #32 05-28-2018, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

All I have to say is "what in the Same Hill is really being said in this post."

He will tell you why he dresses like a young Japanese girl if you ask nicely.
Apostolics don’t understand the issue and need to be nice, guurl.
He has a crush on Aquila.. and Aquila seems to feed the troll.
He’s not satisfied with his church... maybe because they preach against drag.
Then some nonsense about 501c3.
If he wasn’t saved this forum would make him turn away from... not sure here,
saved cross dressing is a thing now?

consapente89 · #33 05-28-2018, 08:47 PM

Rachel Rose...it appears that some posters are under the impression that you are a crossdresser ...is this true?

Esaias · #34 05-28-2018, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelRose

I think you are the first person to ask those questions without using a condescending tone.

I need to construct a thoughtful answer. Initially I was going raise the subject when I noticed several people mention some of the song writers (LW and GD) who were in our fellowship long ago. Those song writers ran into problems and left the organization. There were plenty of rumors and all you have to do is did hunt around the internet to find them.

Let us perform a test: let us watch which two make fun of me. I will use their comments to dictate what I do next. I will be completely honest. As of yet I have not found any apostolic forum that has any idea what they are talking about when it comes to something they do not understand.

The first time I pushed back slightly I was drawn to look like something terrible. I laughed to myself. If they only known who I really was. I do have a tragic flaw; I tend to hesitate when I know I am right about something.

I will call out one person publicly who I envy and that is Aquila. He is bold, he is thoughtful and can give an account with Bible verses as to what he believes. As far as I can tell he is defending the faith and seems to be willing to always have a cheerful comment. I do not know. I am not satisfied with my fellowship in our town. I grew up in possibly the most famous apostolic "mega" church we have. I am 99% convinced the home based church will be the future (the 501C3 church is just an albatross around the necks of those who buy into that model). My favorite part of the Bible is the book of Acts. Yet it seems the Apostles had problem keeping everyone on the "same page." Even the Apostles did not agree on things and had split ups. Hundreds of people on this web site and only one or two that are not filled with anger.

It is good thing no one we expect to win to Christ shows up here: if I was not saved I would have left after the second day.

Are you a biological male who dresses as a woman?

1ofthechosen · #35 05-28-2018, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

not sure here,
saved cross dressing is a thing now?

Yea, that's the part I'm wondering about also. Even though yesterday I ran across this:
https://juicyecumenism.com/2017/02/2...ostal-society/

Oh and Google search on homosexuals and beards deemed Elder Urshan correct. Matter of fact I found something called a lumbersexual pretty disturbing stuff.
https://mic.com/articles/107794/what...-society-today

"This has led to some fascinating observations. One is that heterosexual men have gone out of their way to appropriate gay cultural signifiers of masculinity, as Tim Teeman asserts in his Daily Beast piece, "How [the] Straight World Stole 'Gay.'" "The lumbersexual is just straight culture's latest belated attempt to theatricalize masculinity, decades after gays got there first," Teeman writes. Mark Simpson, in a piece published today at Out, goes so far as to imply that, with the increased popularity of all things gay, straight men "crave gay adulation." Mimicry is, as the adage goes, the sincerest form of flattery."

http://nymag.com/relationships/mating/18852/
(I will take a quote from it, and you can take my word for it or well, be my guest!)

"Back in the seventies, the mustache was an iconic gay symbol; that’s how you could identify gay men,” says John. “But today, anyone can have a mustache—though that’s probably the one thing you won’t see on gay guys anymore, at least in New York.” This cross-pollination of facial hairdos means it’s hard to distinguish subcultures and statements from simple style preferences."

A quote from a homosexual to homosexuals, so when Elder Urshan said more then likely back in 70's, or the 80's, maybe 90's "the homosexual wears the beard." He apparently didn't make that stuff up.

Oh btw Houston I know you weren't in on that debate, but I just put that in this post anyway!

But, apparently there is whole gay apostolic movements. But I would bet they don't believe in speaking in tongues as initial evidence. If they do, and people are speaking in tongues who are actively living in sin, that can be nothing but a false spirit.

Oh but EB I'm going to find the message of Elder Urshan. Gives me a excuse to listen to them all over again anyway!

houston · #36 05-29-2018, 02:29 AM

So the trend is for gays to be cleanshaven. Under the bold text.

1ofthechosen · #37 05-29-2018, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

So the trend is for gays to be cleanshaven. Under the bold text.

These days it say's, but it also says that is regional as it says in New York City. But what I was referencing this wasn't as whether it was right or wrong. But towards Elder N.A. Urshans comment "the homosexual wears the beard." As he said there was homosexuals that identified theirself as such by their facial hair. Which the quote most definitely shows that to be truth. Even if it was in a certain time period. Just someone in here was saying he was out of line for saying such a thing. I just referenced this stuff because it showed he wasn't out of line at all for his assessment of it, the way he said it. He didn't make it up, and just say any old thing.

Evang.Benincasa · #38 05-29-2018, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Oh but EB I'm going to find the message of Elder Urshan. Gives me a excuse to listen to them all over again anyway!

Forget going over old tapes, we aren't Branhamites.

You better go listen to your pastor!

1ofthechosen · #39 05-29-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Forget going over old tapes, we aren't Branhamites.

You better go listen to your pastor!

Lol! And my Pastor! I listen to preaching at work everyday while I'm working. That's how I listen to all the stuff I post. I use to listen to music, but now I listen to a mix. Somedays mostly presching, so I'm not wasting time doing it, it helps pass my time. That's one thing I like about my job.

RachelRose · #40 05-29-2018, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

In your travels what is your experience and opinion of men who are cross dressers? Is it normal for a man to want to dress and present themselves as a woman? Do you believe God wants there to be a distinction between men and woman? If we are going to discuss things associated with homosexuality I would think this subject has a lot more bearing that the ridiculous notion that beards have anything to do with it since historically beards (facial hair) have been one of the primary distinctions God gave between men and women.

You were kind enough to ask good questions so here we go (I am typing and watching President Trump on the TV).

1) In your travels what is your experience and
Thinking of experience I have found the USA is the only country that has a problem with boys dressing like girls OR girls dressing as boys. As I stated in an earlier post, the women always dress as the boy in the theater because it is shameful for a Korean man to perform in the theater. In Japan the boy always dresses as the girl in the theater because it is shameful for a man to perform in the theater.

As for the USA I have discovered there are two types of boys that dress as a women: drag queens and those that are not drag queens. I have met gay and straight men on both sides of that division.

2) opinion of men who are cross dressers?
My opinion: there are many, many reason a boy would dress as a girl or a girl dresses as a boy. I is completely depending on intent. If the intent is to do something bad then my opinion is that person is bad. Intent has everything to do what the person is wearing.

3) Is it normal for a man to want to dress and present themselves as a woman?
It depends on many, many things. I was surprised at how many, normal men or women that had normal lives wanted to try to feel like the other gender. So yes, I think it is normal. What you do with that curiosity is what sets you apart from the not normal.

4) Do you believe God wants there to be a distinction between men and woman?
Yes I do think there should be very distinct gender roles. This is particularly essential if there are children present.

5) If we are going to discuss things associated with homosexuality I would think this subject has a lot more bearing that the ridiculous notion that beards have anything to do with it since historically beards (facial hair) have been one of the primary distinctions God gave between men and women.
Permit me to ask this: why do we Apostolic assume that a girl wearing pants or a by wearing a dress are homosexuals?

That was fun!