Pastors. How to paralyze the Hebrew Roots doctrine

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So thats all you have to say about what I said? So I suppose you did get my point that not all "Hebrew Roots" people are the same?

So your question to me works the same as my question to you. No I have not been to the hundreds of Ultra Con Churches so I cant say ALL when I am making a point about them. You will note many times I say ALMOST all of a certain group does this or that.

What I CAN do is to simply ask a certain person of their belief. If one asks me of my belief I will tell them. I may not get bogged down in explaining every single detail UNLESS I think the person is actually learning something.

I was appointed as an Elder in an Apostolic Ultra Con Church back in 1981 in a body familiar to Steve Eply in Springfield Ohio. So there is a stream of Ultra Con belief that I understand.

Therefore you understand what I'm saying, the Hebrew Roots is a movement. Just like the Apostolics or Charismatics, even though they can go from mild to wild there are still distinctive markings which make them Hebrew Roots.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

How many are in this movement worldwide? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands? So pray tell Steve, how many of them have you met?

Too many.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Do you speak Greek? Must we?

Nope. I don’t act like I am a Greek scholar.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by houston

You’re doing this again

Hey, man. I believe in prayer. If we're not a people of prayer, we might as well close shop and go to the movies or something.

Now, I don't believe in making a spectacle of prayer in public. But, we're all brethren here. If we can't pray here, something isn't right. At least, that's my opinion.

[Evang.Benincasa]

At 30:16 is where he starts really going down hill.

Supposedly a Pentecostal Pastor who converts to Rabbinical Judaism.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

At 30:16 is where he starts really going down hill.

Supposedly a Pentecostal Pastor who converts to Rabbinical Judaism.

Skimmed through. I never saw him saying he was Pentecostal. I heard him say "Evangelical". Nonetheless in his words "a boring story". I would add "pathetic".

He really had no Christian faith to give up. Sadly there are MILLIONS of tares around the world in the same boat. No real manifest revelation of Christ. They may read the Bible and or attend Church but have no sense of his presence.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Skimmed through. I never saw him saying he was Pentecostal.

Brother Michael, that's called you didn't watch the video, and didn't hear what he was saying.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I heard him say "Evangelical". Nonetheless in his words "a boring story". I would add "pathetic".

Really? I listened to the video, and while he is as dry as a mummy's pocket, I listened. Therefore, I can have an opinion which surpasses your skimmed flip through.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

He really had no Christian faith to give up.

You got all that from a skim through?

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Sadly there are MILLIONS of tares around the world in the same boat. No real manifest revelation of Christ. They may read the Bible and or attend Church but have no sense of his presence.

I agree, but these people who go into the Messianic movement, Hebrew roots. First believe that what they are doing is Judaism that they see in the black hat. It isn't. If you would of listened to the video, you would of heard where he asked a Rabbi about he and the Rabbi believed the same thing. The Rabbi was honest, and told the guy the truth. Rabbinical Talmudic Judaism and Christianity have ZERO in common.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Therefore you understand what I'm saying, the Hebrew Roots is a movement. Just like the Apostolics or Charismatics, even though they can go from mild to wild there are still distinctive markings which make them Hebrew Roots.

I know that the 12 Tribes were really good people. I did pick up on their Jewish style, but it didn't seem too excessive to me at the time. They didn't seem very conservative though. Or maybe it was just me and my unfamiliarity with them at the time.

Do the Hebrew Roots people believe that the 10 lost tribes of Israel became a part of the various European and North African nations, or is a different group and/or doctrine?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I know that the 12 Tribes were really good people. I did pick up on their Jewish style, but it didn't seem too excessive to me at the time. They didn't seem very conservative though. Or maybe it was just me and my unfamiliarity with them at the time.

They look like hippies without the tie dye.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Do the Hebrew Roots people believe that the 10 lost tribes of Israel became a part of the various European and North African nations, or is a different group and/or doctrine?

What you are saying sounds like British Israel, and its close cousin Black Israelism.

[Michael The Disciple]

Brother Michael, that's called you didn't watch the video, and didn't hear what he was saying.

I really dont know why I bothered. I should have known it would just be for strife sake. But just to test if my "skimming" skills may be slipping at what moment is he claiming to be a Pentecostal Pastor?