Wikileaks Issues A Beatdown To The CIA - Page 4

Esaias · #31 03-10-2017, 04:08 PM

Esaias · #32 03-10-2017, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

WikiLeaks, Snowden, et. al. do more harm than good.

Well, I'm just glad to know what side you're on.

Jermyn Davidson · #33 03-10-2017, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Well, I'm just glad to know what side you're on.

I value freedom and privacy.

I don't value classified information being made public fodder for those who wish us harm.

n david · #34 03-10-2017, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I value freedom and privacy.

I don't value classified information being made public fodder for those who wish us harm.

You value freedom and privacy, but are upset that the CIA was exposed for spying on you and millions of other innocent American citizens in the US. Yeah, that makes sense.

n david · #35 03-10-2017, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

WikiLeaks, Snowden, et. al. do more harm than good.

Prove it, please. The only "harm" they've done is exposing the CIA/NSA/FBI, et al for the lying, manipulating, evil agencies they are.

Esaias · #36 03-10-2017, 08:07 PM

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...was-destroying

"CIA's Creator Came to Regret It ... Said the CIA Was a "Government All Its Own" Which Was Destroying Democracy.

President Truman created the CIA.

He explained that it was solely an attempt to consolidate intelligence from many different intelligence agencies.

But in the 1970s, he told his biographer, Merle Miller:

I think [creation of the CIA] was a mistake. And if I'd know what was going to happen, I never would have done it.

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Why, they've got an organization over there in Virginia now that is practically the equal of the Pentagon in many ways. And I think I've told you, one Pentagon is one too many.

Now, as nearly as I can make out, those fellows in the CIA don't just report on wars and the like, they go out and make their own, and there's nobody to keep track of what they're up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble so they'll have something to report on. They've become ... it's become a government all of its own and all secret. They don't have to account to anybody.

That's a very dangerous thing in a democratic society, and it's got to be put a stop to. The people have got a right to know what those birds are up to.

Jito463 · #37 03-10-2017, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

You value freedom and privacy, but are upset that the CIA was exposed for spying on you and millions of other innocent American citizens in the US. Yeah, that makes sense.

While I'm not paranoid about government spying, I guess you could argue I'm borderline. I physically disconnect the cameras in my laptops and I'd do the same to my phone if it was feasible.

It's not that I think someone is spying on me, I just don't like the thought that someone could, and reports like this certainly don't help matters.

Esaias · #38 03-10-2017, 09:26 PM

When I was a kid in school, Orwell's 1984 was considered a picture of a horribly unAmerican totalitarian socialist tyranny.

Nowadays, it seems more like it's just "life in the big city, doo wah diddy."

So much apathy. Things are waaaay different than when I grew up. Must be the fluoride.

Amanah · #39 03-11-2017, 08:13 AM

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017.../pers-m10.html

In response to such a brazen defense of the CIA, one is tempted to ask, why doesn’t the Washington Post simply announce that it is a propaganda arm of the U.S. government, tasked with the ideological and political defense of the military-intelligence apparatus? There is not a shred of an independent, critical attitude in this editorial. The newspaper swallows whole the CIA’s assurances that its agents are “legally prohibited” from spying on Americans. And it denounces WikiLeaks for acting as real journalists do, collecting information about government misconduct and making it public.

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"why doesn’t the Washington Post simply announce that it is a propaganda arm of the U.S. government, tasked with the ideological and political defense of the military-intelligence apparatus? "
For the same reason that Prof Bomb Libya Cole doesn't do the same - because they both("mainstream media" and "social media") are still able to dupe a lot of USA "progressives", who, anyway, are glad to be duped too.
Their motto is "Russia bad, CIA good" and ........ anyone who dares to question such wisdom,

CC1 · #40 03-11-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I value freedom and privacy.

I don't value classified information being made public fodder for those who wish us harm.

This is my position as well. Anyone revealing classified info should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law in my humble opinon.

These leaks from various sources the last few years have revealed sources and methods as well as actual individuals who are resources to our National Intelligence Agencies. All of which have compromised our ability to find out critical information and has also resulted in foreign human intel sources being identified and compromised. I consider that treason. I think Snowden should never see the light of day in a small dark prison room.