What We Will Get With Hillary

[Aquila]

It's a sin....

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Aquila

There are no honest politicians. So, I look at it this way.... are they lying to protect the rich at the expense of the working class? Or are they lying to protect the working class at the expense of the rich and powerful?

What a crock. The Democrat leaders ARE the rich and powerful!!!

What have all the Dem governments done for the inner city poor??? Where are the jobs, the industries, the "shovel ready" jobs???

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Did you know what regulations our forefathers placed in corporate power? Most don't realize that our Founders would agree more with Democrats with regards to how to deal with corporate power than Republicans. For example, our Founders placed the following limitations on corporations:

◾Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
◾Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
◾Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
◾Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
◾Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
◾Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.

Source:
Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporat...rporations-us/

You are so blind. The Dems are the corporatists.

But please do not try to equate biblical justice to your socialist schemes.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The entire social justice movement from the abolition of slavery to civil rights was inspired by.... the Bible.

As were the basic tenants of English law that caused the colonists to rebel against an oppressive government that refused to let them govern themselves anymore, just like the Federal Government does to the States in our time.

But you know little about the Abolitionists, obviously. They were complete heretics that were booted out of the northern churches. In the end they had little effect towards the ending if slavery. Most opposition to slavery in the north was economic, not moral. I'm a history major and know a little something about this.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

What a crock. The Democrat leaders ARE the rich and powerful!!!

What have all the Dem governments done for the inner city poor??? Where are the jobs, the industries, the "shovel ready" jobs???

Democrats are often wealthy. But their policies, like SCHIP and TANF, help desperate families. They also slowed down the bleeding of jobs that marked the Bush economy. They cut deals to help stabilise gas prices, and have come a vast difference towards energy independence. Have you seen gas prices today compared to what they were? That alone saves average Americans tons of money. They also reform tax code and close loopholes that the rich and corporations use to evade taxation and to benefit from moving jobs overseas. This generates more revenues for programs and helps balance the budget. They also seek to negotiate drug costs and expand healthcare. But the companies don't want to play ball and lose profits. Democrats work with established international alliances to avoid war or to wage it collectively to ensure victory and reduce costs. Democrats wage more surgical and targeted war.

Republicans would cut all programs that help the poor, raising rates, homelessness, and would ripple through education as kids struggle to even go to school. Under Republicans tax cuts and increased subsidies are king. As the wealthy and corporations evade taxes, the cost to run the government falls on the working class....or you run deficits. Republicans deregulate the oil and gas industry, allowing for crony capitalism and market manipulation that allows these corps to gouge consumers. They also deregulate healthcare and the industry colludes to gouge consumers and deny coverage, leaving people to die. Republicans seem to reject established alliances and form their own with business deals bordering on war profiteering. And they are willing to go it alone. A recipe for another Vietnam. Republicans glorify massive ground war. Who fights our wars? Young men and women who come from poor working families or the inner cities.

Yes, both are wealthy, but as you can see, liberal rich people value paying their taxes. Conservatives think evading taxes is smart. Thus, we pay the difference for them to save money. They are both wealthy, but Democrats do more for main street America.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Originalist

You are so blind. The Dems are the corporatists.

But please do not try to equate biblical justice to your socialist schemes.

So, are Democrats corpratists or socialists?

Biblical economy was Distributist, bordering on agrarian socialism.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Originalist

As were the basic tenants of English law that caused the colonists to rebel against an oppressive government that refused to let them govern themselves anymore, just like the Federal Government does to the States in our time.

But you know little about the Abolitionists, obviously. They were complete heretics that were booted out of the northern churches. In the end they had little effect towards the ending if slavery. Most opposition to slavery in the north was economic, not moral. I'm a history major and know a little something about this.

Check out Quaker contribution.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

We will get a no fly zone in syria and war with russia, syria, and iran. WW3 here we come.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, are Democrats corpratists or socialists?

Biblical economy was Distributist, bordering on agrarian socialism.

link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarian_socialism

A - was the land owned by individuals/families or by the government/collective?
Were the crops harvested and then sold/used by the owners or given to the government/collective to be divided?

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Aquila

So, are Democrats corpratists or socialists?

Biblical economy was Distributist, bordering on agrarian socialism.

Lay off drinking the koolaid, it is only making you say dumber and dumber stuff.