What about the trumpster?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Conspiracy theories and tinfoil hats.



I served 8 years Army. My first MOS was 19K (M1 Tank Crewman) and my second was 91B10 (Combat Medical Specialist). If anyone is loyal to the United States, I assure you, it's me. I'm more loyal than the Trumpster with his cozy relationship with the Russians. Trump never braved fire or killed a man for this country. Frankly, I think Trump would pi$$ his pants and plead to buy his way out of dying.

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. Public Education - You, your children, you family, or someone you know has participated in this socialist institution.

2.Police, Fire, and Emergency Services - Next time you get robbed, your house is on fire, or you need other emergency services, be sure to turn them away because you hate socialism.

3.The US Postal Service - It’s pretty nice to be able to send and receive mail every day (except Sunday) wherever you are in the country. “Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.”

4.Medicare, Medicaid - My absolute favorite of the right-wing protesters are the ones who don’t want socialized medicine, but insist that the government not interfere with their Medicare and/or Medicaid.

5.Public Subways, Metro Systems, Buses, and Light Rails - Millions of people in our nations cities use these socialist methods of transportation to get to work, go shopping, or just get around town.

6.Sidewalks, Roads, & Highways - Sure, not every street in the country is in the best condition, but they wouldn’t even be paved at all if the government didn’t provide them as a service to all of its people.

7.Public Parks, Beaches, and Zoos - Who doesn’t enjoy a stroll in the park, relaxing on the beach, or seeing monkeys fling poo at the zoo? No one, that’s who. If it weren’t a national park protected and funded by the government, the Grand Canyon would probably already be the Grand Landfill.

8.Public Museums, Public Libraries - These fun and educational institutions are a vital part to any decent city. Their enjoyment can be shared by everyone because of their “socialist” government funding.

9.SCHIP and other state-run insurance programs - I’m not sure how, but the Glen Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world have managed to convince their listeners that health insurance for children is a bad thing.

10.Social Security - This New Deal program was a vital part of recovery from the great depression. Most will tell you that while it doesn't solve every problem, it helps.

I don't care who you are, rich or poor, Teaparty Republican or Liberal Socialist. The odds are that you benefit from at least one or more of these 10 American Government-Run, Taxpayer funded "Socialist" programs, agencies, and laws.

My overall argument is not for a completely socialist nation. This would not work. A completely capitalist nation would not work either.

I'm just simply saying that I, as a Democratic Socialist, feel that the two can co-exist. I know this because they always have. Socialism and capitalism have always co-existed in America.

I also believe in freedom. I believe options are a form of freedom.

Oh, for cryin' out loud. Even, The Pledge of Allegiance, was written by an American Christian Socialist.



As I said, my step-daughter received care she desperately needed because she was covered by SCHIP.

Tin foil hat my...eye. You simply are believing one side of the story without any real investigation as to what the truth might be. Furthermore, why do you insist on imposing democratic socialism on ALL the States? Half of them want no part of it, Texas included. Keep pushing this garbage and you can kiss Texas goodbye.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Of course. The GOP nominee is too scared to debate anyone one on one, just as he was too afraid to debate Cruz one on one. He wants to have others there so he can deflect and hide.

Weakest. GOP. Nominee. Ever.

Sad but true.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Tin foil hat my...eye. You simply are believing one side of the story without any real investigation as to what the truth might be.

We can talk all day about what the truth "might" be. I can tell you this, investigative authorities have not found any actual evidence to legally substantiate any of the conspiratorial claims against Hillary Clinton. That's why NOBODY, even bipartisan committees, have been able to find any actual wrong doing.

It's a political strategy. Slander the enemy with endless accusations until their reputation is smeared in the public eye. Some would say that the media is doing this to Trump as we speak. However, sadly, many things that the media is reporting about Trump is indeed true.

Furthermore, why do you insist on imposing democratic socialism on ALL the States? Half of them want no part of it, Texas included. Keep pushing this garbage and you can kiss Texas goodbye.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jason B

3,500 babies are ruthless legally murdered a day. Approx 1.2 million a year. If she wins and serves 8 years thats over 10 million. Hillary speaks out in favor of this and enables it.

Thats 10 million reasons for me (and I would suggest any Christian) not to vote for Hillary.

Good thing your daughter got healthcare, but if you would have wanted to kill her off Hillary would have been ok with that too.

The Republicans aren't going to protect those 10 million children. They had one of the strongest Republican Presidents ever in the Bush Administration, control of Congress, and 5 out of 9 conservative justices appointed to the SCOTUS. They could have turned the abortion problem upside down. But they didn't. There were actually reports of Republicans scoffing at Christian voters who assumed they would do something about abortion. Everybody in politics knows that abortion is a "wedge issue". The Republicans NEED it to lock in the highly religious into a dependable voting block. Overturning Roe would be a nightmare for Republicans. Because then they'd have to actually run on actual policy. Right now, a vast majority of Christian voters will vote Republican regardless of policies or positions, as long as that politician claims to be Pro-Life. That's an awesomely powerful political tool.

Besides, imagine if those 10 million children were indeed born. Statistically 2 out of 3 would be born into households at or below the poverty line. There would be a greater need for social services, public assistance, education funding, and expanded subsidized health insurance. The Republicans HATE all these things. So, in essence.... even IF they could save the lives of those 10 million who you say will be aborted.... they'd do NOTHING to actually improve their quality of life. Frankly, the Republicans are all Pro-Life when you're in the womb... but after your born.... they'll leave you to rot.

I like the DFLA (Democrats for Life of America). They have a position that they call Pro-Life and it is from "womb to tomb". They support legislation to address women confronted with crisis pregnancies to encourage life. They also support necessary government programs to help those families, including universal health insurance. Now, in my opinion, that is being REAL Pro-Life. In all honesty, they've done more to address the abortion issue and reduce the abortion rates than any measure proposed by the Republicans. Check it out:

The Pregnant Women Support Act - the Pregnancy Assistance Fund (PAF)
http://democratsforlife.org/index.ph...port-act-95-10

*Please note... the Republicans opposed all these pro-life measures. While most Democrats are Pro-Choice, every Democrat would like to see fewer unplanned pregnancies and abortions. Both Pro-Life Democrats and Pro-Choice Democrats are united in supporting policies that are aimed at preventing unplanned pregnancies and assisting those mothers who choose to carry their children to term. That's more than you'll ever get out of a Pro-Life Republican.

[Jito463]

Here's an easy way to prevent unplanned pregnancies. It's called abstinence.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The Republicans aren't going to protect those 10 million children. They had one of the strongest Republican Presidents ever in the Bush Administration, control of Congress, and 5 out of 9 conservative justices appointed to the SCOTUS. They could have turned the abortion problem upside down. But they didn't. There were actually reports of Republicans scoffing at Christian voters who assumed they would do something about abortion. Everybody in politics knows that abortion is a "wedge issue". The Republicans NEED it to lock in the highly religious into a dependable voting block. Overturning Roe would be a nightmare for Republicans. Because then they'd have to actually run on actual policy. Right now, a vast majority of Christian voters will vote Republican regardless of policies or positions, as long as that politician claims to be Pro-Life. That's an awesomely powerful political tool.

Sad, but true.

Just as the Democrats use Social Security as a wedge issue. Won't do anything about it, because they need to be able to run ads claiming whomever the GOP nominee for POTUS is, he/she is trying to push them off a cliff or take away their SS money.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Here's an easy way to prevent unplanned pregnancies. It's called abstinence.

We all know that abstinence is the surest way to avoid an unplanned pregnancy. However, most don't wait until after they graduate college, land a stable high paying job, and marriage. Most have sex prior to marriage. Even most Christians have had sex prior to marriage. Contraceptives are not a bad thing. Even married couples use contraceptives. While we should encourage abstinence, we do well to make contraceptives available.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Sad, but true.

Just as the Democrats use Social Security as a wedge issue. Won't do anything about it, because they need to be able to run ads claiming whomever the GOP nominee for POTUS is, he/she is trying to push them off a cliff or take away their SS money.

True. But aren't Republicans on record for wanting to privatize Social Security and hand it over to private investors to invest into the markets?

[MawMaw]

My whole family is voting Trump.
Actually don't know anyone personally
that is voting for Clinton.
Gonna be one or the other.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by MawMaw

My whole family is voting Trump.
Actually don't know anyone personally
that is voting for Clinton.
Gonna be one or the other.

Good for you.