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Old 06-13-2007, 08:52 PM
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You will not be able to reconcile yourself with this UPC doctrine, because that is not what it says.

It is sad for me to see some of the ladies that i grew up with that are elderly now.Becuse they never trimmed the dead ends off their hair ,it is unhealthy and some are loosing their hair.It makes no sense to me at all.

Some local Pentecostal ladies were eating lunch with my wife a while back.They told her it was wrong for her to cut her hair,but they could teach her how to break it off with a hot curling iron.

I am curious ,is this a common practice?
I'm sorry about the inconsistancy with this story. My wife doesn't use a hot curling iron. If the hair falls off then so be it. I'm sorry they did that with your wife, really I am.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:54 PM
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You will not be able to reconcile yourself with this UPC doctrine, because that is not what it says.

It is sad for me to see some of the ladies that i grew up with that are elderly now.Becuse they never trimmed the dead ends off their hair ,it is unhealthy and some are loosing their hair.It makes no sense to me at all.

Some local Pentecostal ladies were eating lunch with my wife a while back.They told her it was wrong for her to cut her hair,but they could teach her how to break it off with a hot curling iron.

I am curious ,is this a common practice?
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:57 PM
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I'm sorry about the inconsistancy with this story. My wife doesn't use a hot curling iron. If the hair falls off then so be it. I'm sorry they did that with your wife, really I am.
I was not accusing anyones wife brother.I was just wondering if this is a common practice.These ladies were from two different churches in this area both UPC.

I just told the wife to ignore them.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:59 PM
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It is funny in a way Berkley,but at the same time sad.:sshhh
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It is funny in a way Berkley,but at the same time sad.:sshhh
Yes, they have found a way to make the word of God to no effect (if in fact it is anti'cut)
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:07 PM
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It is funny in a way Berkley,but at the same time sad.:sshhh
It's as pitiful as Atlanta Bishop's son who encountered a UPCI girl at camp and showed him her baby she had out of wedlock ... while stating ... "At least I didn't cut my hair"
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:41 PM
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What I want to know is if it is a shame for a man to have long hair, why did God command Samson not to cut his?
In the Old Testament both men and women could take a Nazirite vow.
Part of the vow was that they would not cut their hair for a specific period.
This could be as long as a lifetime in the case of Samson (Judges 13:5), Samuel ( 1 Sam. 1:11) and John the Baptist (Luke 1:15), but was (from what I have read) usually just for a month. This is found in Numbers chapter 6. Paul the Apostle practiced this at least once (Acts 18:18) and when he went to Jerusalem (Acts 21:20-27) he sponsored some Jewish brethren in their Nazirite vow by paying for the animal sacrifice for them. So under the Old Testament it was customary for both men and women to cut their hair but they could take a vow and not cut it for a while as an act of consecration.

The "shame for a man to have long hair" and the shaved head for a woman refers to a custom of cross dressing practiced by men and women at that time and in that area as part of heathen sex rituals of a religion practiced at that time.
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:46 PM
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Really, my church is UPC. My wife does not cut her hair. However, I can read and study the bible and I don't get uncut out of it.

Now if you take the stance that this is not cultural and that it applies to Christians of today the only thing I get is that longer hair might possibly be more please and respectful to wards the husband. Am I reading this wrong?
History shows that Paul's writing on hair was sixty years after Pentecost.

What about the women that cut their hair before that?

I believe it was a struggle of traditions even then. The Jews wanted to make Gentiles get circumcised.
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:50 PM
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A site that addresses this and some other issues is:
http://www.actseighteen.com/

The hair issue is addressed in:
http://www.actseighteen.com/articles/uncuthair.htm
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[QUOTE=Tech;154221]You will not be able to reconcile yourself with this UPC doctrine, because that is not what it says.

It is sad for me to see some of the ladies that i grew up with that are elderly now.Becuse they never trimmed the dead ends off their hair ,it is unhealthy and some are loosing their hair.It makes no sense to me at all.

Some local Pentecostal ladies were eating lunch with my wife a while back.They told her it was wrong for her to cut her hair,but they could teach her how to break it off with a hot curling iron.

I am curious ,is this a common practice?[/QUOTE]

It is for those who want to live by the letter of the law, but it's not in their hearts. I know several who have never "cut" their hair with scissors, but they have burned it, pulled it out, broken it off, etc. Those women are like the Pharisees who just obey enough to get by, or so they think.

I would bet God is just thinking, "IT'S JUST HAIR; What's the big deal?" But that's just my opinion.
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