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Old 11-25-2015, 05:31 PM
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Re: Why Cruz or Trump will win

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Bwahahahahahahahahaha

So what do I get when you again are proved wrong?

Steak dinner for me and my wife?

Your barking will not stop the train....

The GOP will not, can not, and absolutely shall not endorse Trump if they can help it.

Even Trump in the last few days is rebuking the GOP for not doing what they said they would do when he signed the contract with them. He already suspects that they are going to ditch him.

He will go third party and Hillary Clinton will be your new CIC!!!
"Yet again"? And what have you previously proven me to be wrong about? Trump and Cruz will make a great ticket.
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Old 11-25-2015, 06:36 PM
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So let's just give up and not try. That's a good approach.
No, let's give up doing the same old useless routine and maybe do something different.

But not to worry, there are enough suckers to keep the game rolling (for a little while, at least).

Make plans now to answer your grandkids when they ask "Why didn't you do something? Why did you just keep pretending all is normal? Why did you kick that can down the road to me? Thanks a lot!"

Assuming of course they aren't chipped, flipped, and trading you in for some soylent green...
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So your plan is stay home and don't vote at all?
That's like gasping in surprise when I tell you I do not plan on screaming at the TV newscaster because they are saying something stupid.
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"Yet again"? And what have you previously proven me to be wrong about? Trump and Cruz will make a great ticket.
Do you think, really, that the GOP is going to give it to Trump?
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:33 PM
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Do you think, really, that the GOP is going to give it to Trump?
The establishment cannot stop this ground swell. The people are speaking.
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Old 11-26-2015, 02:27 AM
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The establishment cannot stop this ground swell. The people are speaking.
That's what all the Ron Paul supporters thought.

The Establishment doesn't care what 'the people' want. The failure of the TEA Party movement is objective proof of that. So was the GOP 'counter-revolution' against the Ron Paul movement.

Why does nobody here remember Ross Perot? I mean, not just the name, but the actual events as they played out?

And let us suppose the GOP nominates Trump. So what? Trump, the democrat, friend of the Clintons, the next Republican candidate? Can nobody see the idiocracy at work here?

I mean... wow.
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Old 11-26-2015, 06:42 AM
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That's what all the Ron Paul supporters thought.

The Establishment doesn't care what 'the people' want. The failure of the TEA Party movement is objective proof of that. So was the GOP 'counter-revolution' against the Ron Paul movement.

Why does nobody here remember Ross Perot? I mean, not just the name, but the actual events as they played out?

And let us suppose the GOP nominates Trump. So what? Trump, the democrat, friend of the Clintons, the next Republican candidate? Can nobody see the idiocracy at work here?

I mean... wow.
I think you are exaggerating Trump's "friendship" with the Clintons. There's nothing to the story. What business man does not try to gain favor from the ruling class? Anthony Mangum was a REAL friend of the Clintons. Should I reject his ministry just for that? And what of Perot? Had he not dropped out and gotten back in the race, bill Clinton would never have become President. Trump is not a coward like Perot.
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Re: Why Cruz or Trump will win

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No, let's give up doing the same old useless routine and maybe do something different.

But not to worry, there are enough suckers to keep the game rolling (for a little while, at least).

Make plans now to answer your grandkids when they ask "Why didn't you do something? Why did you just keep pretending all is normal? Why did you kick that can down the road to me? Thanks a lot!"

Assuming of course they aren't chipped, flipped, and trading you in for some soylent green...
You Apostolics are so melodramatic.
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Esaias, tell us exactly what all to do as our part being citizens, in regard to bettering our government. Anything? Nothing?


Do you vote?
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Esaias, tell us exactly what all to do as our part being citizens, in regard to bettering our government. Anything? Nothing?
First, repent. Repent of political idolatry and political polytheism. This means recognising and deciding in your heart of hearts there is no answer outside of God and his Word.

Isa 33:22 For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us.

And again:

Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psa 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

This requires us to recognise that JESUS CHRIST is our judge, not the Supreme Court or any other human judge who defies God, the ULTIMATE JUDGE OF ALL. It requires us to recognise that JESUS CHRIST is our LAWGIVER, not Congress or any other parliament of bought and paid for political whores who defy the God of Heaven and Earth. It requires us to recognise, to truly believe, that JESUS CHRIST is our KING, and that HE - He ALONE - will save us.

We are part of a monarchy, 200 year old parchment documents to the contrary notwithstanding. The reigning monarch is Jesus Christ. Here what he says:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

ALL power, that is to say, AUTHORITY, in heaven AND IN EARTH is Christ's. All spiritual power. All political power. All ethical power. All POWER. All AUTHORITY is in the hands of Jesus Christ. Therefore there is no authority outside of His. We must regain that awareness first and foremost.

Therefore it MATTERS NOT what men declare, or what pretensions they claim to authority, in defiance of the living and resurrected KING, our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul said this:

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

We need to realign our thinking to get it in line with God's Word. And God's Word declares that the State is ordained of God - ordained to DO SOMETHING SPECIFIC. And what is the secular power ordained to do? It is ordained by God to punish evil.

Is abortion evil? Are sodomite parades evil? Is bribery and corruption evil? Is SIN evil? Is blasphemy evil? Then the State is ordained by God to punish it.

Neither the GOP, nor the Democrat Party, have ever, nor will they ever, submit to God. They are in open defiance to God and His authority. They are, in short, in rebellion against God. To look to them for answers or solutions, to support them in any way, is to support their continuing and ongoing rebellion against the only Judge, Lawgiver, King, and SAVIOUR, Jesus Christ.

Hear the Word of the Lord:

Exo_23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:

To vote for something is to give your support to it, to say 'amen' to whatever it is you vote for. Your vote is your choice. And to vote for the 'lesser of two evils' is to still choose evil. And does anyone seriously think they will not be accounted as supporters of evil, when they support that which is evil, though they protest 'but it was less evil than the other choice'? Please.

We as the people of God have got to get our act together, and take a stand for our King. The Supreme Court cannot 'legalise' abortion, or sodomite marriage, or any other such thing. Why? Because the LAW IS ON THE BOOKS ALREADY, and the Lawgiver, Jesus Christ, has not and never will repeal that Law!

So, first, repent. Acknowledge that only Christ has authority, and that all other authority whatsoever is derived from Him to punish evil. (Including bad government - it is ordained by God to punish a sinful and wicked, rebellious nation.) Acknowledge that we WILL have godly government but only if and when we repent as a nation and stop being evil. Sin brings death. As long as we promote sin, we promote death. As long as government promotes SIN, it promotes DEATH.

Lend no support whatsoever to anybody whatsoever who will not wholeheartedly endorse the claims of Jesus Christ as reigning King and Sovereign.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

God requires us to separate from that which is evil. The entire political establishment in this country has become evil, along with the religious leadership of the denominations. The GOP lies, repeatedly, every election, promising this and that, and delivering on practically nothing. NO MATTER WHO IS IN CHARGE, THINGS GET WORSE and CONTINUE on the same trajectory - into tyranny and oblivion and nihilism. Hello? Hello, anyone there?

Until we get first things first, that is JESUS CHRIST FIRST IN ALL THINGS (including politics), we will continue under judgment and wrath.

Second, have a backup plan. Namely, as judgment continues to rain down on the nation in the form of the mass hysteria and insanity that has gripped the nation (have you seen the youth lately?), increasing disease, increasing idolatry, increasing immorality, foreign chains being drawn tighter and tighter around our necks, etc etc, God's people will be required more and more to be SEPARATE FROM THIS WICKED GENERATION.

Not separate by mere speeches and platitudes, but by concrete actions that separate you and your family from this evil Babylonian-inspired system. Yes, that means getting out of debt, it means turning the Babylonian boob tube off and rejecting their garbage programming, it means yanking your kids out of the atheistic antichrist 'public sk00l' system. It means teaching your children there is no power but of God. It means teaching your children that they will literally wind up in a lake of fire in the end if they coddle and tolerate sin, and that includes voting for people who deny the LORDSHIP of Jesus Christ is all things, sending their money to such infidels, or allowing such sons of Belial to raise their children or educate their children.

We didn't get into this mess overnight, and it s doubtful we will get out overnight. It will take generations unless a genuine Revival breaks out - which would bring genuine Reformation to the nation.

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Yes, but not by casting a meaningless 'ballot' on a Diebold machine for the 'lesser of two evils'. I vote for Christ, by withdrawing support for this beast system as much as God enables me to, by becoming more God-dependent and less world-dependent in regards to our family's food, living, finances, education, and spiritual nourishment. I do what I can to fulfill the Great Commission, which has nothing to do with getting folks into 'da choorch' but has everything to do with teaching people to obey Christ is ALL areas of their life. The gospel is the gospel of the KINGDOM of God, with the crucified, buried, and resurrected Lord Jesus Christ as KING.

It's ALL about 'government'. It's ALL 'politics'. Who's politics you gonna support? Man's? Or God's?

Trying to put bandaids on broken Baal-worship is not the answer. Baal's images and altars need to be torn down, one family at a time, one soul at a time.

And judgment begins at the house of God - with us.
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