The Falacy of "Holy Spirit Prompting."

[mfblume]

I also wonder about Matthias. Voted by lots? At any rate, Paul was inspired of God and said he was born out of due time.

And he said he was an apostle, and God inspired him to write most of the New Testament. I trust the canon, as I feel God orchestrated its existence.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I believe Acts 9 is the basis for Paul.

And Corinthians says that God set apostles in the church, so as long there is a church there are apostles in the same context the other ministries are mentioned. Eph 4:11 as well.

ya, i guess it depends upon one's definition of "apostle" then--is an apostle a familiar acolyte, or a church seeder? I dislike the use of the term for the latter, as now one must come up with a new term for the former, is prolly my biggest objection.

[JoReba]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I also wonder about Matthias. Voted by lots? At any rate, Paul was inspired of God and said he was born out of due time.

And he said he was an apostle, and God inspired him to write most of the New Testament. I trust the canon, as I feel God orchestrated its existence.

As a "Pentecostal," you typically base your faith on what you have revealed about yourself:

1.) "My Thoughts"

2.) "I wonder."

3.) "At any rate."

4.) "I trust the canon."

5.) "I feel."

All of these statements by yourself demonstrate empty thoughts. There is still time for you to bring your mind and life into compliance with God's Word, rather than remaining filled with useless church aphorisms. Peter never called Saul's writings The Inspired Word of God. He only called them "wise" and "difficult to understand," proving the lack of unity and Apostleship in Saul.

Read with accurate comprehension, rather than with your imagination and so called "Free-Dumb inna thu SPEEE-Ritt!" Lol.

[JoReba]

Originally Posted by phareztamar

Nope...you win JoBob. We have no basis for a discussion. To discount the apostle Paul, and then want to discuss the Royal Law with me, is a bit of an ozymoron, don't you think?

Good. Run away in weakness. Because you cannot state how The Mosaic Laws in the least relates to uourself, you now verify my point that it has nothing to do with you.

And, yes, we have from you neither discussion nor any statements of fact. We have only your chit-chat ideas, and your intuitive feelings. Lol.

[JoReba]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Ignore my previous question, as I see you have already made your assertions regarding Paul, here. Most of your claims are negatives, which of course cannot be proven as stated, although they can be refuted, as I will do shortly, Lord willing. However, a common theme seems to be that Paul's doctrine was contrary to Christ's doctrine.

Could you list specific examples, quoting Paul's words, and then quoting Christ's words, to demonstrate they are contradictions?

So simple to do, as I already have started above, Poorly Observant Parrot of Church Nonsense. I will give here only the one example, since you are not capable of multitasking these kinds of things.

Review above my statement that Christ never spoke the word "Grace." Paul endlessly speculated, misrepresented it, and babbled about Grace. Compare Jesus speaking in Matthew 6:14-15 about the works of forgiveness needed for Righteousness, then look at Paul foolishly babbling about Grace apart from works in Ephesians 2:8-9.

If you can grasp this one, I will give you another to learn about. Irrefutable. Lol. So Much fun.

[shazeep]

yikes

[KeptByTheWord]

Since you are such a hater of Paul's writings, and think that he was the only one who talked about grace, you are wrong.

II Pet. 1:2 "Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord."

You have a venom in your spirit that does not want to understand that Jesus came to change the old law into the new, and while Jesus may not have used the word grace, does not mean that Peter, one of the apostles (who was handed the keys to the kingdom of heaven) did not know what it was.

[KeptByTheWord]

You o'learned JoReba - do tell us how the words of Peter contradict the words of Paul concerning grace? Remembering of course, that Jesus handed Peter the keys to the kingdom that was to come after His death and ascension.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i never did like this calling people other than the 12 apostles...there is no Scriptural basis for it.

Yes there is. There were others who were called Apostles. The word comes from the Greek "Apostello" which means someone sent for someone else...an ambassador

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by JoReba

As a "Pentecostal," you typically base your faith on what you have revealed about yourself:

1.) "My Thoughts"

2.) "I wonder."

3.) "At any rate."

4.) "I trust the canon."

5.) "I feel."

All of these statements by yourself demonstrate empty thoughts. There is still time for you to bring your mind and life into compliance with God's Word, rather than remaining filled with useless church aphorisms. Peter never called Saul's writings The Inspired Word of God. He only called them "wise" and "difficult to understand," proving the lack of unity and Apostleship in Saul.

Read with accurate comprehension, rather than with your imagination and so called "Free-Dumb inna thu SPEEE-Ritt!" Lol.

Stop your condescension.