Operation Jade Helm 15:

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If the nation is run by executive fiat under Emergency War Powers, just what exactly are "we the people" supposed to do?

for what it's worth, governments run countries; the nation is "we the people."

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jito463

I did read those links. Did you?



Maybe you should read your own links before making statements about them.

Please. I actually did read them (it's why I posted them). You do realize the four "rendered dormant" declarations were followed by numerous other declarations which are still in effect? I mentioned that in my initial post. I'm not too convinced you are paying attention to what I posted much less the actual links.

But that's okay. I first heard about these national emergencies (so-called) back in the early 90s. I've made countless trips to university libraries, local law libraries, etc. I've read the official published documents re taxation, citizenship, admiralty law, court precedents, etc. I pretty much believe nothing until I check it out and verify it myself. I've spent untold hours pouring over the CFR and the US Code, US Reports, CFPs, even Vernon's Annotated Statutes (Texas state law). I can tell you that researching original documentation leads to discoveries even more startling than some "conspiracy theory" you might have heard about.

You can certainly believe what you want. The fact the opening line of the first link said exactly what I claimed, which you initially challenged, shows me you are not familiar with the facts.

Listen to everyone, BELIEVE NOTHING until you verify it by your own research. (originally stated by a "conspiracy theorist" who predicted 9/11 and who was gunned down on his porch shortly after the predicted event came to pass...)

[Originalist]

Why aren't the Governors mobilizing their State militias? Militias cannot be "Federalized".

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Why aren't the Governors mobilizing their State militias? Militias cannot be "Federalized".

I believe that is what kinda started the Civil war / War of Yankee agression.

[Monterrey]

And yes, the Civil war proved that the states rights could be Federalized by the Government.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

I believe that is what kinda started the Civil war / War of Yankee agression.

The State militias did not "start the Civil War" Geesh. The State Militias were around since the colonies each declared their independence from Britain. They are not linked to the U.S. military in any way and cannot be Federalized.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

And yes, the Civil war proved that the states rights could be Federalized by the Government.

Might does not make right, or prove anything. Might only puts off and subdues issues for a time, but they eventually reassert themselves. Just ask the USSR.

[shazeep]

"ask the USSR" that's rich

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Why aren't the Governors mobilizing their State militias? Militias cannot be "Federalized".

Because " the states" have become subdepartments of the federal corp. They are in on the scam. Proof? Texas could shut down their border in 24 hours by just mustering volunteers into the State Guard, bring your own arms, etc, and begin deploying to the border. Mil vets first, others get 1 week marksmanship and ROE training and deploy in rotation. All volunteer, no pay even. They'd have more people than they'd know what to do with and the dope smuggling and illegal crossings would come to a screeching halt.

But will they do it? Not in this lifetime.