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Old 04-01-2015, 05:42 PM
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Re: ALJC vs UPCI

Many standards were clear in years gone past, but because of the culture of our day it seems harder and harder for people to get. I preach the absolutes and teach the things that may be more grey. If people take care of the heart then standards aren't a real issue. We may disagree on some of them, but there will be fruit on the vine if a person is really in relationship with God.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:56 PM
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Wait wait wait.... Presenting things in love and being patient is "old fogeyism"?

By that definition the whole UPC is nothing but "old fogeyism".
That might not exactly be true, but it should be.
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Old 04-01-2015, 05:59 PM
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That being said, my personal standards exceed my church's standards in some respects.
What do you mean by that?
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I just meant ALJC, PAW, maybe even WPF (not that I think anyone from WPF would ever associate with any UPCer lol).
I associate with both UPC and WPF.
I know of numerous churches who also do so.
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Old 04-01-2015, 06:55 PM
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I just meant to say that from what I've heard, which, granted, isn't that much, WPF members don't take to UPCers very well. The fact that they sometimes fellowship together isn't really much of a surprise.
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Re: ALJC vs UPCI

I mean that the standards your pastor sets are the minimum. You can if you feel convicted go beyond them.

An example. Your church can preach no cutting of the hair and wearing of skirts. Maybe the pastor doesn't preach against makeup. Does that mean you can't still not wear makeup?

Or skirts but not skirts to the ankles, you can still only wear skirts that go to the ankles.
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Old 04-01-2015, 07:04 PM
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I mean that the standards your pastor sets are the minimum. You can if you feel convicted go beyond them.

An example. Your church can preach no cutting of the hair and wearing of skirts. Maybe the pastor doesn't preach against makeup. Does that mean you can't still not wear makeup?

Or skirts but not skirts to the ankles, you can still only wear skirts that go to the ankles.
I mean you personally.
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If they're so similar why don't they just merge?
Excellent question!!!!!! That makes too much sense. Too much like right.
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Because no one does anything that makes sense anymore!
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:27 PM
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Well, sort of. He used to be my pastor when he pastored the Crooksville daughter work of the Anchor Church, but my actual pastor is Anthony Richard. I go to the Zanesville church for Sunday evening services and on Wednesdays for youth group. He's my bishop.
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