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02-23-2015, 10:31 AM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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And if Hussein were still alive, a lot of other people in Iraq likely wouldn't be. Let's not pretend he was some saint, keeping the peace over there. He was a mass-murdering lunatic, who killed his own people, including his sons-in-law. He had to go, regardless.
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Yes he had to go. He wasnt playing ball with his oil. Look at his country before and after. More people have died during a so called operation freedom then while he was in charge. Why arent we kicking out the dictators in Africa? Some of them make Saddam look like a saint. Give me a break with that tired narrative. Same with Ghaddafi. He wasnt the boogeyman the west made him out to be. Just like Saddam, he was defying the west when it came to his oil.
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02-23-2015, 10:41 AM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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Yes he had to go. He wasnt playing ball with his oil. Look at his country before and after. More people have died during a so called operation freedom then while he was in charge. Why arent we kicking out the dictators in Africa? Some of them make Saddam look like a saint. Give me a break with that tired narrative. Same with Ghaddafi. He wasnt the boogeyman the west made him out to be. Just like Saddam, he was defying the west when it came to his oil.
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I somewhat agree with you here. Oil has driven a lot of our conflicts in the ME, but IMO the Iraq War was mostly a personal vendetta W Bush had against Hussein for trying to assassinate HW Bush.
Iraq is unstable and Libya has become a mecca for terrorists, thanks to Hussein and Ghaddafi being overthrown.
And yes, there are African dictators which are far worse than either Hussein or Ghaddafi and they are still in power.
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02-23-2015, 10:55 AM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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02-23-2015, 04:01 PM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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I somewhat agree with you here. Oil has driven a lot of our conflicts in the ME, but IMO the Iraq War was mostly a personal vendetta W Bush had against Hussein for trying to assassinate HW Bush.
Iraq is unstable and Libya has become a mecca for terrorists, thanks to Hussein and Ghaddafi being overthrown.
And yes, there are African dictators which are far worse than either Hussein or Ghaddafi and they are still in power.
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Just curious as to which dictators are worse than Saddam or Muammar?
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02-23-2015, 04:16 PM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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Just curious as to which dictators are worse than Saddam or Muammar?
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C'mon on man. Look at these warlords that are running around in Africa. They slaughter whole villages at a whim and have no remorse.
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02-23-2015, 07:21 PM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
Dictators and warlords are an entirely different meaning to me.
I would put Saddam, Muammar and Adolf right up there together.
It's just that Adolf had more tools to make his plans with.
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02-23-2015, 08:56 PM
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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um, what? and wadr, a quick review of our last exchange
? wanna start over? or trade sides? 
funded by you, trained by the cia. You are free to believe that their present activities were not what was intended, if you like. personally, i know better. this is an ancient pattern. it is a cliche` |
Thats not what your quote says..... smh
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02-23-2015, 08:56 PM
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ok, and PressTV is the best news going right now, imo. Their articles tend to have little substance beyond the headline, but their news is for real!
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From Iran?
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02-23-2015, 08:57 PM
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ok and no, i am not happy about having to seek real news from others; but i see that it is humbling, and so serves a purpose in that regard as well.
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How do you know when it's real news or not? Do you get a feeling in the back of your neck?
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Re: If Hussein Was Still Alive
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And if Hussein were still alive, a lot of other people in Iraq likely wouldn't be. Let's not pretend he was some saint, keeping the peace over there. He was a mass-murdering lunatic, who killed his own people, including his sons-in-law. He had to go, regardless.
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But why does it always have to be us to take out these guys? Nobody appreciates it. If we had energy independence we could cut all ties with the lunatics of the middle east.
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