Modern pentecostal church music and Oneness

[Carl]

Always loved singing "How Great is our God", excellent example of some of the newer music that is good. I also love the Chris Tomlin version of Amazing Grace that came out several years ago. I remember commenting to someone at church who had sung it that I was curious why it took so many years for someone to write a chorus to it.

[Steve Epley]

I love the classic doctrinally inspired songs written during the early 20th century. The revelation of truth was the inspiration. I like some of the newer songs that exalt God. Mark Yandris has written some fresh worship songs I enjoy.

[MarkBelosa]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I love the classic doctrinally inspired songs written during the early 20th century. The revelation of truth was the inspiration. I like some of the newer songs that exalt God. Mark Yandris has written some fresh worship songs I enjoy.

Yup. Like this one:

[MarkBelosa]

Originally Posted by Carl

Always loved singing "How Great is our God", excellent example of some of the newer music that is good. I also love the Chris Tomlin version of Amazing Grace that came out several years ago. I remember commenting to someone at church who had sung it that I was curious why it took so many years for someone to write a chorus to it.

I love his songs.

This "world edition" of How Great Is Our God brings chills to me ALL THE TIME

[peter83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Many old hymns and songs were theologically explicitly Oneness. They served to teach theology, soteriology, and other doctrines.

Does the modern repertoire in Oneness churches do the same? Or are modern worship songs lacking in doctrinal and theological instructive content?

Old paths was more spiritual maybe.
Music enters in church after some decades of Azuza street revival. I read some thought of people lived those days and they looked at it like it was a human replacement for spiritual atmosphere (probably was missing).
Personaly i see Drums like a jazz,rock n roll, instrument.
And i think there in not so important the music in the church! I dont say that is a bad thing ,but it is not necessary too.
Nowere in the New Testament we see somebody dance, nothing about instruments is mentioning and nowhere is any "music ministry".
Some people take the dancing of David and they say "yes it is ok to dance around in the church like crazy like Dvid was dancing and he did not cared how he looks".
Ok but lets consider two things :
1) In the new testament Paul says even the tongues we speak ,we must do carefully, in order to dont bother any new soul in the Church.
2) David danced but other verses said "And the Spirit of God came upon him and he killed 1,000 Philistines" Is this in the New Testament what happen when the Spirit comes in one person?
So while i like music and i accept it just because "it is like that". I have always some thoughts in the back of my head. I always want to distinguish between Emotion and Spirit.
An other very very serious thread is that :
Music is from the SOUL. nOT FROM THE sPIRIT.
In the new testament the word "sensual" is translated from the word ψυχικος ,that means "a person that follows his soul.
1 Cor.2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1. (properly) soulish, pertaining to the soul. [Add “soulish” to your scriptural vocabulary; not yet in the English dictionary].
2. that which is motivated and controlled through the soul.
3. (by implication) worldy, focused on the natural senses, the world, and internal motivations (various instincts, needs, and wants).
4. (by extension) natural, sensual (as directly opposed to spiritual).

[RachelRose]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Btw, I watched the Hillsong video. That's not a particularly bad song. It almost seems like an old fashioned hymn. But I wonder... how is it all these MASSES of people are "experiencing" such powerful intimacy with Christ... yet always remaing ignorant of WHO EXACTLY HE IS? Is their worship experience essentially a "one night stand"?

There is a balance some place. I have for YEARS heard our leaders say we have to do this! We need all this stuff to:

1) worship God really LOUD just like in heaven
2) worship God with dancing and shouting
3) worship with all you might

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

There is a balance some place. I have for YEARS heard our leaders say we have to do this! We need all this stuff to:

1) worship God really LOUD just like in heaven
2) worship God with dancing and shouting
3) worship with all you might

Revelation 19:1 After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: "Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,

Rev. 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne

Rev 7:10 And they cried out in a loud voice: "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."

Rev. 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven:

for me it is all a distraction. I love a simple, country church with people I can get to know. I like Aquila's idea of a House Church. Frankly in the End Times all those Mega-Churches will become an albatross (see the novel) around your necks!

Do we really need colored lights, blasting music, a coffee bar and a gift shop in the church building??? I have seen too much wackiness in Pentecost.

Acts 2:13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, "They have had too much wine."

Acts 17:6 These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also;

What happened to the simple Gospel???

The gospel is simple but the church has always been tumultuous.

[peter83]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

There is a balance some place. I have for YEARS heard our leaders say we have to do this! We need all this stuff to:

1) worship God really LOUD just like in heaven
2) worship God with dancing and shouting
3) worship with all you might

for me it is all a distraction. I love a simple, country church with people I can get to know. I like Aquila's idea of a House Church. Frankly in the End Times all those Mega-Churches will become an albatross (see the novel) around your necks!

Do we really need colored lights, blasting music, a coffee bar and a gift shop in the church building??? I have seen too much wackiness in Pentecost.

What happened to the simple Gospel???

Who is in your Avatar?

[KeptByTheWord]

Most (not all) worship songs written today are more like chants, words repeated over and over that are mostly meaningless.

I'm not against all new music that is written. I love the old hymns, I love new songs that are written too, but not the "Jesus is my boyfriend" style either, that makes me gag.

I'd rather have no music than sing to songs that are bee-bop, chants, and "Jesus is my boyfriend" stuff.

Have the congregation sing acapella and see how beautiful that can be. Have an old sister or brother sing Amazing Grace or their favorite hymn.

Worship is beautiful in many forms, but when it becomes motion and movement without heartfelt worship, it is meaningless.

[peter83]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Most (not all) worship songs written today are more like chants, words repeated over and over that are mostly meaningless.

I'm not against all new music that is written. I love the old hymns, I love new songs that are written too, but not the "Jesus is my boyfriend" style either, that makes me gag.

I'd rather have no music than sing to songs that are bee-bop, chants, and "Jesus is my boyfriend" stuff.

Have the congregation sing acapella and see how beautiful that can be. Have an old sister or brother sing Amazing Grace or their favorite hymn.

Worship is beautiful in many forms, but when it becomes motion and movement without heartfelt worship, it is meaningless.