Deep Apostolic Teachers?

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

But doctrinally Charles seems to be wrong on all counts, at least foundation wise.

Mike, I think the Pastor was saying that he preferred teaching likened to C. Stanley rather than the yelling, snorting, etc. one normally witnesses in Apostolic churches, NOT that he agrees with Stanley's doctrines. At least that is how I understood it, but I'm confident he will set us both aright if it be that is not what he meant.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Lafon

Mike, I think the Pastor was saying that he preferred teaching likened to C. Stanley rather than the yelling, snorting, etc. one normally witnesses in Apostolic churches, NOT that he agrees with Stanley's doctrines. At least that is how I understood it, but I'm confident he will set us both aright if it be that is not what he meant.

Yea I think he meant it that way. I sound more like Charles Stanly than the stereotype Pentecostal Preacher.

[Lafon]

After recommending a book written by a discredited Baptist preacher when I challenged his teachings concerning "soul sleep," a man who not only called the UPCI a cult, but who also said that "tongues" was a "doctrine of devils," then I wouldn't even "walk across the street" to listen to anything Seagraves might have to say.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Lafon

After recommending a book written by a discredited Baptist preacher when I challenged his teachings concerning "soul sleep," a man who not only called the UPCI a cult, but who also said that "tongues" was a "doctrine of devils," then I wouldn't even "walk across the street" to listen to anything Seagraves might have to say.

What? I thought Seagraves was a UPC?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

What? I thought Seagraves was a UPC?

He is

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Sean

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt View Post
Im the Apostolic Charles Stanley. I cant stand too much "hackin and snortin" I LOVE MEAT!!!

Some meat will give you food poisoning. Just be careful what you digest.

No offense brother, but you need to check some of the meat you eat, it might be a little spoiled.

[Evang.Benincasa]

http://danielsegraves.blogspot.com/

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

http://danielsegraves.blogspot.com/

Dom,

But how does that relate to what Lafon said? Seagraves has become anti Pentecostal?

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Dom,

But how does that relate to what Lafon said? Seagraves has become anti Pentecostal?

Sorry, Mike, I didn't say that Seagraves had "become anti-Pentecostal." What I said was that instead of defending his stated position concerning "soul sleep," which I refuted by way of personal correspondence with him when he was the Dean of Theology at Christian Life College in California (he is now associated with the Urshan School of Theology at Hazelwood, Mo), he replied, recommending that I acquire and study a book written by a defrocked Baptist theologian, which essentially believed as he did about the matter.

I likened Seagraves actions to be similar to advising me to go and consult with the devil to learn the "truth" about "soul sleep"! What Seagraves was not aware of was that I had in my possession a DVD in which the defrocked ex-Baptist theologian accused the UPCI of being cultic, and that "speaking in tongues" was of the devil.

I would have thought that Seagraves, being the learned biblical scholar that he proclaims himself to be, would have been aware of the credentials of the man who wrote the book that he advised me to purchase and study.

This incident happened more than 10 years ago, and I've never listened to a single sermon, or speech concerning Bible doctrines by Seagraves since, nor do I intend to!

[Michael The Disciple]

Wow if Seagraves teaches soul sleep he just moved up in my eyes! Good news!