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07-14-2014, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
The word teaches Holiness and Separation, modesty and commitment....God doesn't change...people do...
I just listened to Richard Gazowski say that God told him he was going to have the first church on another planet... God seems to say a lot of things to people...
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So do you judge if what God says to someone is true or false based on the Word of God or based on the UPC manual? Hmmm
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07-14-2014, 11:59 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
Brotha G....!!!!!!
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07-14-2014, 11:59 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Charnock
Direct quotes from minute 40 to minute 44...
"If the Word doesn't teach it, you don't get to teach it. You don't get this pastoral authority thing that goes beyond the Word."
"I remember lying on my face and saying "God, if I make these changes, if these standards here get changed, if I change this and I change that, if I allow this and I allow that, God, I will destroy my Daddy's church. There won't be nothing left of my Dad's church when I'm done, Lord. His legacy will be destroyed. His legacy will be ended. God his ministry has been destroyed because of what I've done to his church.
And I remember lying on my face before God...and I remember the Holy Ghost speaking to me and saying "This is not your Daddy's church. This is not your church. It's My (God's) church. And you are going to obey what I tell you to do."
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BTW - he references 2006 as when he thought what you quoted about making changes.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-14-2014, 12:01 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by revrandy
The word teaches Holiness and Separation, modesty and commitment....God doesn't change...people do...
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I agree, completely.
God's Word doesn't change, people do.
Pentecostal pioneers took the message handed them by their fathers and altered it dramatically...as did their children, and their children's children.
Were they wrong to follow the leading of the Holy Ghost?
No.
Neither is Steve Pixler.
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07-14-2014, 12:02 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Where does the Word of God say a woman can't trim her hair, wear an earring, or a bifurcated garment? Where does the Word of God say a man can't have a beard or wear a short sleeve shirt?
Where does the Word of God say you can't have a TV or go to a professional sporting event?
And where does the Word of God say you can do none of the above but can use the internet, watch YouTube, wear expensive watches, diamond wedding rings,turn church/camp meeting into a worldly fashion contest of vanities, and not go to movie theatre but watch DVDs?
Is it really the Word of God or just your tradition? I think the latter.
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And just for your information we do not watch any in of movies any where in any fashion. We do not wear expensive watches (I don't wear a watch at all) and we don't wear any kind of ring, don't dress extravagant or watch DVD's. As for the other things you well know what scripture is used but you refuse to see it.
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07-14-2014, 12:03 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
Is Pastor Pixler UPC or World Wide Pentecostal Wrestling Fellowship or GIB?
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-14-2014, 12:08 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by CC1
Is Pastor Pixler UPC or World Wide Pentecostal Wrestling Fellowship or GIB?
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GIB
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07-14-2014, 12:10 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by CC1
Is Pastor Pixler UPC or World Wide Pentecostal Wrestling Fellowship or GIB?
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I think he's GIB, like his father and grandfather before him. He did marry a UPC girl.
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07-14-2014, 12:15 PM
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Big deal you don't do all these things but you know like minded people are very inconsistent in how they apply the standards....and that's because they are the commandments of men and are ever changing.
So tell me why a woman can't wear a pair of capris. Is Deut 22:5 it? Is that what you whole case is built on?
What about a woman trimming get hair? 1 Corinthians 11 is that your whole case? You do know a woman can trim her hair and it still be long right? You do know the Greek word for long does not mean uncut right?
Are these the "scriptures" I know but refuse to see? OR is it a tiny fringe sects private interpretation I refuse to see. You have no scripture for your standards and you know it.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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07-14-2014, 12:19 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
Big deal you don't do all these things but you know like minded people are very inconsistent in how they apply the standards....and that's because they are the commandments of men and are ever changing.
So tell me why a woman can't wear a pair of capris. Is Deut 22:5 it? Is that what you whole case is built on?
What about a woman trimming get hair? 1 Corinthians 11 is that your whole case? You do know a woman can trim her hair and it still be long right? You do know the Greek word for long does not mean uncut right?
Are these the "scriptures" I know but refuse to see? OR is it a tiny fringe sects private interpretation I refuse to see. You have no scripture for your standards and you know it. |
As I said you know the scriptures and I WILL NOT argue with you.
The men I know are very consistence with what they preach
Them men I know live what they preach.
I do have the Word for what I preach but there is no use in arguing with those who say "oh it doesn't mean that" Just not going to do it
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