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Old 07-07-2014, 08:49 PM
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If I thought there was a way for America to return them directly to their parents, then maybe I'd be on board for it.

But then, good parents wouldn't let this happen, would they?

I am under the impression that these kids would be extremely difficult or impossible to return to their parents-- identity issues, parents moving, etc.
There is a way, it's been done for decades until obama decided to ignore the law. The government has flown and bussed people back to their homeland for decades. Until now.

Again, why is there a gag order on the Border Patrol? There was a picture in the local paper a few days ago of some AZ border checkpoint with no BP agents anywhere around. The gate was open and anyone could come through at anytime. Why has DHS taken over BP duties?
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Gee golly willickers!

What will we ever do about the THOUSANDS of unaccompanied illegal immigrant children on our soil now?
Treat them, bathe them, feed them and send them back to their parents.

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Should we depart them back to their home country? What if they're government can't verify their identities or citizenship status?
These kids all know their own names, their family name and town.

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Should we simply turn them around at the Mexican border?
No and shoot the Coyotes

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What if they die in the dessert on their way back home-- or worse, kidnapped by sex trade smugglers?
That could also happen on the way here. Why doesn't Mexico do something? They are passing through their nation

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All the children! All the THOUSANDS of children! America must do something about this!
We need to hold every nation accountable. That's the problem. America can't do everything

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"We must do right by the children," said Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.
And yet those kids are still stacked up like Sardines with lice, TB and other diseases and haven't bathed or anything



what we need is better Border security
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What about the children?

What do you think we should do? Put them in over burdened foster care system and charge the over burdened tax payers?
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JD, do you advocate opening up our boarders and allowing children from China, Philipines, Africa, Guam, Pakistan, Afghanistan and every third world nation to come here and force everyone else to baby sit them?
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Reading his opening posts, this apparently is amusing to him. He's making a joke of a very real and very bad situation. I doubt he wants to have a serious conversation on the issue. Sad.
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Reading his opening posts, this apparently is amusing to him. He's making a joke of a very real and very bad situation. I doubt he wants to have a serious conversation on the issue. Sad.
So you say this AFTER we have already had a serious conversation, after I have extended genuine courteousness to you, after I log off.

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Good on Gov. Rick Perry for refusing to meet Obama at Austin-Bergstrom Airport to just shake his hand on the tarmac.

"I appreciate the offer to greet you at Austin-Bergstrom Airport, but a quick handshake on the tarmac will not allow for a thoughtful discussion regarding the humanitarian and national security crises enveloping the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas." - Letter to WH from Gov. Rick Perry

Come to the border and see what is going on, Obama.

Obama knows if he goes go to the border, he owns this problem.

Three illegals (and they weren't children) pushing grocery carts with ONE bag in each cart crosses the intersection in front of me smiling like they own the world. You aren't suppose to take shopping carts home. Ugh! Where is the Border Patrol in this town! Ugh!
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Old 07-08-2014, 07:55 AM
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Treat them, bathe them, feed them and send them back to their parents.


These kids all know their own names, their family name and town.



No and shoot the Coyotes


That could also happen on the way here. Why doesn't Mexico do something? They are passing through their nation



We need to hold every nation accountable. That's the problem. America can't do everything



And yet those kids are still stacked up like Sardines with lice, TB and other diseases and haven't bathed or anything



what we need is better Border security
I wish that we would simply build a multi-layered fence, anchored deep in the ground, that stretched the entire length of our border with Mexico.



Praxeas, now that we have taken custody of those children, if anything tragic happens to those children (bus hijacked, etc) we will in part be responsible.

There a couple things I am unclear about-- did these kids arrive at once en masse? Have we just been collecting kids like pokemon cards for such a time as this? Is it a very recent development to have so many kids unaccompanied at our border and were they unaccompanied for most or all of their trip?

I am also thinking that these children may have been coached to not divulge identifying information and some of them could very well simply just not know-- but maybe I am wrong about this, I just don't know.



We need a better system.

A physical wall or fence would be a good place to start.
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Good on Gov. Rick Perry for refusing to meet Obama at Austin-Bergstrom Airport to just shake his hand on the tarmac.

"I appreciate the offer to greet you at Austin-Bergstrom Airport, but a quick handshake on the tarmac will not allow for a thoughtful discussion regarding the humanitarian and national security crises enveloping the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas." - Letter to WH from Gov. Rick Perry

Come to the border and see what is going on, Obama.

Obama knows if he goes go to the border, he owns this problem.

Three illegals (and they weren't children) pushing grocery carts with ONE bag in each cart crosses the intersection in front of me smiling like they own the world. You aren't suppose to take shopping carts home. Ugh! Where is the Border Patrol in this town! Ugh!
President Obama already owns this problem. He's the President.
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Good on Gov. Rick Perry for refusing to meet Obama at Austin-Bergstrom Airport to just shake his hand on the tarmac.

"I appreciate the offer to greet you at Austin-Bergstrom Airport, but a quick handshake on the tarmac will not allow for a thoughtful discussion regarding the humanitarian and national security crises enveloping the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas." - Letter to WH from Gov. Rick Perry

Come to the border and see what is going on, Obama.

Obama knows if he goes go to the border, he owns this problem.

Three illegals (and they weren't children) pushing grocery carts with ONE bag in each cart crosses the intersection in front of me smiling like they own the world. You aren't suppose to take shopping carts home. Ugh! Where is the Border Patrol in this town! Ugh!


How is it "good" for the Governor to not meet with the President? Meet on the tarmac and from that meeting, establish a better time to have a deeper conversation about the problem.
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