UPC Resolution to Remove TV from Manual

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

So how are you getting your daily dose of wisdom from Phil and Uncle Si?

Who are they?

Well.....I have an idea who Phil is.

He was already on when I threw the TV in the lake.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The UPCI (or any other organization) isn't the Kingdom of God and should never be seen as anything more than a human organization designed to make money and control members

what you just said is pathetic.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Who are they?

Well.....I have an idea who Phil is.

He was already on when I threw the TV in the lake.

No, not DR Phil. LOL

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

No, not DR Phil. LOL

Sorry!

[Evenuntodeath]

Originally Posted by PreacherME

Women were shown how to paint there faces for the fallen angels in the book of Enoch.

The book of Enoch, are you serious? You do know the book of enoch is: a) used in witchcraft and b) not even in the bible?

[LifeUncommon]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

From two separate sources connected to WEC and the General Board I've been told that last week's GB meetings produced a resolution for this year's General Conference to remove all references to TV from the manual. For some time there has been a committee researching the subject and the relevance of the wording of the manual in regard to television ownership among ministers. David Bernard realized that modern technology had made the wording of the manual irrelevant and obsolete.

The word I received was 75% of the Board members were in favor of it. This is a giant shift in policy. It has been a wedge issue for years between conservative and moderate/liberals. The WPF exists today because of the 2007 decision to allow TV advertising at the GC in Tampa. Should the GC pass this resolution, this could push more conservatives out of the door.

To the man on the street this debate is a no brainer. To ban the traditional TV from preacher's homes while phones, computers, notebooks and other devices can access almost all of the same content of television is nonsensical. A majority of UPC churches have members who own TVs. Many preachers have TVs and have been making the choice to lie on their affirmation statements they are required to sign every other year. Many preachers have left because they could no longer sign it dishonestly. 30% of new applications for ministerial licenses in the UPC had the statement about TV ownership struck through, which automatically canceled the applications validity.

With the numbers in the UPC declining, in numbers of churches, numbers of veteran ministers and numbers of young men applying for license, the UPC cant afford to turn away 30% of new applicants. I believe that with the short term losses of conservatives leaving it's ranks the long term benefits will outweigh the losses.

Then there's the dress code and hair issues...

It's a start, but too little too late for a great many. Omitting ALL of the mainmase rules would open the floodgates and spark a great revival...but the question is whether the powers that be are willing to sacrifice pride and tradition in pursuit of revival.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Sorry!

Phil


Uncle Si

[Dordrecht]

My biker buddies!??

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

My biker buddies!??

It really is a good show. While not QUITE as family friendly as a 1960's era Disney nature film about an orphaned bear cub narrated by Burl Ives (in technicolor). . . . . It is close.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

I think the only outward Apostolic Identity for men in today's American culture is:
1: No shorts in public
2. No facial hair
3. How holy their wife looks

In other words, you would have a difficult time picking them out of a line-up.

The ladies, on the other hand, can be spotted a mile away!

It's all silliness to me!

Except the shorts in public on men and facial hair is debatable.