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09-10-2012, 04:16 PM
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Re: Is It UnGodly to Not Vote?
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09-10-2012, 06:30 PM
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Re: Is It UnGodly to Not Vote?
An excellent treatise on voting for
"none of the above," imo.
See that you were made a "conservative"
to divide you from a "liberal," and a Christian
has no business in politics.
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09-11-2012, 05:40 AM
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Re: Is It UnGodly to Not Vote?
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Originally Posted by bbyrd009
Hey, if this describes you, as a Christian,
then I agree. I feel sorry for you, and I'm convinced that
you only feel this way because that is what you were shown,
in pretty much willful ignorance of God and Scripture,
but one must do what they think best.
"What will you say if we get a Hitler?"
 How do you think they got Hitler? Hmm?
He was popularly elected (which, btw, is impossible here)
after openly rebelling, and represented the will of the people
at the time. Don't let all the Aryans crying croc tears later
fool you.
Personally, I will say the same either way
(Hitler or Gandhi); you got what God gave you,
and you had no choice in the matter, whether you
believe you did or not. Need Scripture for that?
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Spoken like a true die hard Calvinist who believe God executes absolute control over every minute detail in life so everything we get is God ordained and man has no choice or say in the matter.
Personally I think Calvin was wrong and his doctrine a sham. WE choose and God allows us that priviledge. He allows us free will and choice. When we make terrible choices, He allows us to suffer and hopfully learn from them.
God didn't ordain Obama, GWB, Clinton, GHWB, Reagan or any other POTUS. The people voted for them and sometimes we got good leaders, other times...not so much.
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09-11-2012, 05:42 AM
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Re: Is It UnGodly to Not Vote?
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I thought you had some kind of deal with Randy or someone that after the Convention you were going to shut up about all this sour grapes "Newt didn't get the nod so I'm going to whine non-stop" business?
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09-11-2012, 08:54 AM
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Re: Is It UnGodly to Not Vote?
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
Spoken like a true die hard Calvinist who believe God executes absolute control over every minute detail in life so everything we get is God ordained and man has no choice or say in the matter.
Personally I think Calvin was wrong and his doctrine a sham. WE choose and God allows us that priviledge. He allows us free will and choice. When we make terrible choices, He allows us to suffer and hopfully learn from them.
God didn't ordain Obama, GWB, Clinton, GHWB, Reagan or any other POTUS. The people voted for them and sometimes we got good leaders, other times...not so much.
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Hmm, never read Calvin. Personally, I believe that God picks our leaders, just like Scripture says, while also not interfering in our free will. I agree with what you say after "free will," (and pretty much in general) and I'm curious how you might interpret 1 Sam 8 for today.
And ps, after the way in which gay marriage is being jammed down our throats, despite the will of the majority, in a matter where the popular vote supposedly does count, "the people voted for them" sort of becomes like a joke with a mis-placed punch-line? Peace.
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