Isaac and the RNC

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

You all can congratulate yourself for being "principled" voters while being blind to the realities of modern politics. I see the real danger and what's at stake and know that not getting 100% of what I want politically is okay as long as I know something as fundamentally important as our nation going bankrupt and weakened economically will be averted.

Obama will drive this nation to financial ruin. Romney/Ryan have a plan that's sensible and workable.

And they are going to win, with or without your support.

Modern politics is what it is.

Our nation has been bankrupt for decades and a Romney/Ryan ticket is not going to change that. He is just pulling the wool over the American people's eyes. Romney is a flip flopper. He doesn't tell us the truth. Obama is a straight in your face talebearer. He abuses executive orders to hide the real truth about his life from the people.

What choice do we have? Surely you cannot believe what Romney says? Do you actually believe he is going to turn this country around? Do you actually believe Romney's promises?

The people believed Obama's 'hope and change' and what did we get? Hopeless change.


If this country gets turned around, it will only be by Divine Providence because the people of God put their faith in Him and pray and seek His face.

Or maybe it will not turn around because it's God's time to pass judgment on this nation...this world. No matter how we slice it or dice it...the church in this country has become fat and lazy. We deserve the leaders we get because God puts leaders in and takes them out according to His Will.

Consider Daniel 2:21

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

PO - why do you keep pushing doctrines which the Mormons no longer follow or believe in?
I guess it is to just further your argument.

link

http://www.mormonwiki.org/Lorenzo_Snow_couplet_theology

snippet

President Gordon B. Hinckley with Don Lattin, the San Francisco Chronicle religion writer. The article was dated Sunday, April 13, 1997 [10]:

Q: There are some significant differences in your beliefs. For instance, don't Mormons believe that God was once a man?
A: I wouldn't say that. There was a couplet coined, "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become." Now that's more of a couplet than anything else. That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don't know very much about.
Time magazine of August 4, 1997, in an article titled "Kingdom Come," page 56 [11]:

Q: Just another related question that comes up is the statements in the King Follet discourse by the Prophet.
A: Yeah
Q: ... about that, God the Father was once a man as we were. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing. Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?
A: I don’t know that we teach it. I don’t know that we emphasize it. I haven’t heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I don’t know. I don’t know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I don’t know a lot about it and I don’t know that others know a lot about it.
See main article: Gordon B. Hinckley interviews



Why don't you hold Catholics responsible for burning heretics?
Or for the selling of dispensations?
Guess those do not help your cause celebre...

I went to your link and read this from reference number (21)

"I am not saying that it is completely impossible that God was a mortal man who sinned and made mistakes before his exaltation."

http://theboard.byu.edu/questions/20391/

The Book of Mormon is the word of God, like the Bible. It is Holy Scripture, with form and content similar to that of the Bible.

http://mormon.org/book-of-mormon

[Pressing-On]

ORomney is just as much "in your face and I don't care" as Obama.

Romney Executes Republican Party Power Grab

The Republican National Convention Rules Committee voted 63-38 to approve a new rule allowing granting the Republican National Committee — and Mitt Romney — sweeping new powers to amend the governing document of the GOP.

The move came at the encouragement of Mitt Romney supporters on the committee, including Romney's top lawyer Ben Ginsberg, who stressed that it would grant "flexibility" to Romney and the committee to adapt to changing political environments. The rule allows the RNC to amend the party's rules without a vote by the full Republican National Convention. And it offers the Republican Establishment a new tool to keep at by Tea Party initiatives that threaten to embarrass or contradict party leadership and stray from a planned message.

"This is dangerous, it amounts to a power grab," he said. "We are abandoning the historic process by which are rules are adopted."

The Romney allies waited until Friday to propose the amendment, choosing to avoid giving the opposition time to organize by proposing it at the preliminary Rules meeting on Wednesday or during more than three years of RNC Rules Committee discussions.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/...rty-power-grab

[houston]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

What exactly did you agree with?
Yes, I am shocked to read this from you.

With everything that I heard. I'll send you the links later.

"Houston, fair and balanced like the Bill's, O'Reilly and Maher."
(LM.O)

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes, Gingrich is a Catholic.

Ben Swann is just reporting what's going on behind the scenes. It's just a news item. And I do think the Mormon issue will come up in the fall.

I do think he made one good point - "Unlike the Jeremiah Wright scandal where President Obama simply pushed Wright into a closet, Romney can't easily separate himself from Mormonism because of his past role as a leader in the church."

And remember, I'm understanding they will make Mormonism an issue at Convention. If they do that, it's "hands-on" for the Democrats after Obama issued a "hands-off". If he gets whipped with it, it will be his own fault.

Catholicism is misguided in some areas, like other religions, but they are mainstream as they also believe that God always was and was not a man who became righteous through steps and progression to become God. At the outset, Mormonism will never be mainstream, unless, voters put him in the WH.

Not sure how you see him being in WH making Mormonism mainstream?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I never said it would hurt him. Why would it? I did say it would be an issue in the fall. So, why would it hurt him when no one cared about his flip-flopping self. Or that he has been lauded for having conservative positions that he never implemented or was able to pass when he was a governor.

It's crazy that you won't find evidence that Newt ever voted against anything he campaigned on but, Romney has broken numerous pledges in Massachusetts to both Conservatives and Liberals. I expect, if he wins, he will do that in the White House as well.

That is a serious concern for me, however, I will NOT vote for BO and I don't see any other choices do you?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Esther

That is a serious concern for me, however, I will NOT vote for BO and I don't see any other choices do you?

Yes, a no vote or for whoever else will be on the ballot - Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. The RNC is trying their best to remove them, so it might be between the two evils, er, the lesser, er. How does that go?

[AreYouReady?]

I didn't know that there are levels of evil.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes, a no vote or for whoever else will be on the ballot - Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. The RNC is trying their best to remove them, so it might be between the two evils, er, the lesser, er. How does that go?

I think it goes...the lessor of two evils...

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I went to your link and read this from reference number (21)

PO - and what do you say about Catholics and the Apocrapha?