Chemical imbalance in brain' myth debunked

[bbyrd009]

My experience with hormones tells me that
one can def have a chemical imbalance;
and following AYR's advice has helped a lot, imo.

For a depressive, $ says you are deficient in
both Omega 3 and vitamin D (and prolly most
of the B's), and a serum test will confirm this.
I credit these two alone with lifting most of my depression,
and if a shot of "5 hour energy" (a horrible way to get B's,
but an easy way to check) lifts ones depression significantly,
there you go. I maintain that these are spiritual problems,
as I was led to these, and AYR's, remedies. Vitamin D hit me
like a B12 shot. Your body uses Omega 3 (and cholesterol)
to make every cell wall. In their absence, it will use whatever
hydrogenated yack you are consuming, resulting in poor
permeability, reduced oxygenation, and poor mitochondrial
output-a recipe for depression. Add the emotional roller coaster
of smoking dope, and I'm surprised you're still alive.

Don't really know much about Parkinson's or Alzheimer's,
but have read that in A's case, it is brain oxidation,
another dietary indicator. Personally, I am convinced that
a Safeway diet was killing me. You want to get high?
Try "Greens Today."

[ILG]

Very good, AYR!

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

My experience with hormones tells me that
one can def have a chemical imbalance;
and following AYR's advice has helped a lot, imo.

For a depressive, $ says you are deficient in
both Omega 3 and vitamin D (and prolly most
of the B's), and a serum test will confirm this.
I credit these two alone with lifting most of my depression,
and if a shot of "5 hour energy" (a horrible way to get B's,
but an easy way to check) lifts ones depression significantly,
there you go. I maintain that these are spiritual problems,
as I was led to these, and AYR's, remedies. Vitamin D hit me
like a B12 shot. Your body uses Omega 3 (and cholesterol)
to make every cell wall. In their absence, it will use whatever
hydrogenated yack you are consuming, resulting in poor
permeability, reduced oxygenation, and poor mitochondrial
output-a recipe for depression. Add the emotional roller coaster
of smoking dope, and I'm surprised you're still alive.

Don't really know much about Parkinson's or Alzheimer's,
but have read that in A's case, it is brain oxidation,
another dietary indicator. Personally, I am convinced that
a Safeway diet was killing me. You want to get high?
Try "Greens Today."

So you would recommend "Greens Today" as a nutritional supplement?

[bbyrd009]

I just picked one that had worked for me; prolly any whole food vitamin
would provide benefits. "Greens Today" is not cheap; at half-dose it is $20
a week--but it will make one pretty bullet-proof. "Original Formula" tastes like low tide and dead cat...start with "Joint Formula," a bit more palatable.

I returned to mention evacuating, which the "greens" def helped.
If you aren't "going" at least 3 times a day, you are def "chemically imbalancing"
yourself with toxins. I'm back to about 5 times a day now.
I believe that it is physically impossible to be "chronically depressed"
going 5 times a day, and serum test indicating proper levels of O-3 and Vit D.

[bbyrd009]

Ok and for the record, I would recommend
eating a balanced diet to get what the
Organic Frog (Greens Today) would provide...
then reality intrudes, and you go get some greens today.

I'm not currently supplementing, but I had to move
to an organic farm to accomplish this, and will prolly
supplement in the winter.

[ILG]

These are the least expensive greens I could find.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWR009/ItemDetail

I have used these for a few years. Most of the suggestions made in this forum I have used myself to get over PTSD and adrenal fatigue. These greens taste okay if mixed with juice.

[bbyrd009]

Awesome, I'll have to check them out. "GT" is 72
different plants (you haven't had 72 different plants in your whole life),
but they are proud of it...and I'd recommend one ingest the first can of it
full strength.

For me, it came down to priorities;
$20 a day for (hash), or $20 a week
to cure a 20 year suicidal depression.

...this would all be after taking AYR's advice, which I
put under "stop ingesting poisons."
Do you know that stevia was, until quite recently,
illegal in the US? Hmm; who are you
gonna vote for? Lol

[bbyrd009]

^

[bbyrd009]

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philp...-on-scientists

A quick look at where your tax dollars go in the area of policing
chemical imbalances. Lol.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Esaias, your four articles did not "debunk" anything.

The only thing I've read out of those articles, save the ADHD is about the neurotransmitters, serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine etc.

Which is precisely the point of the articles - there is no such thing as a scientifically demonstrated 'chemical imbalance in the brain'. They debunk that idea - an idea pushed by the pharmaceutical industry

These are the transmitters that the pharmaceutical companies focus on when developing and peddling their psychotropic drugs.

Again, that was the whole point of the articles I linked to. Big Pharma and the psychobabble industry promote an erroneous view of mental disorders, by claiming they are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain requiring pharmacological treatment with xanax, paxil, ritalin, prozac, etc.

Apparently...the American Medical Association does not totally agree on the views of the writers of these articles.

The AMA supports Obamacare. Nothing more need be said about them, imo. But in case anyone else holds the AMA in esteem, check this out -

http://www.medibid.com/blog/2011/10/...sts-no-longer/

Originally Posted by medbid link

In a recent survey of physicians conducted by the Atlanta-based physician recruitment firm Jackson & Coker, doctors believe that the AMA no longer represents their views. A whopping 77 percent of physicians reject that premise that the AMA currently reflects their profession.

I agree that people who are prescribed Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor drugs (SSRI) most likely do not have a shortage of serotonin, as said so by Dr. Sherry A. Rogers who wrote many books about modern medicine. When these medications first came out, it was recommended that they be given for only a short period of time...6-9 months so that people can work out their problems and come to terms with emotional trauma. Now the doctors are telling patients that they may be on these drugs for life??? What is wrong with this picture eh? Lots of things of which is too numerous to be discussed in this post.

Again, that is precisely the point of the articles I linked to. Not sure why you said the articles 'debunk nothing'.

However, I disagree with the premise that there are NO chemical imbalances in the brain. Your articles only touch on the subject.

Not quite. Here's a quote from one of the articles:

"No experiment has ever show(n) that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicls. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like. ... Do the varieties of consciousness called mental illnesses have a biochemical substrate? Of course they do, but, as noted above, this is only because every kind of mental state has such a substrate. "

Here's another :

"“No biochemical, neurological, or genetic markers have been found for Attention Deficit Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, Depression, Schizophrenia, anxiety, compulsive alcohol and drug abuse, overeating, gambling or any other so-called mental illness, disease, or disorder.” —Bruce Levine, Ph.D., psychologist and author of Commonsense Rebellion"

Simply put, no such thing as an 'imbalance in the brain' can be scientifically posited as a cause of any mental disorder, because a)no such imbalance has ever been observed, and b)nobody can say what BALANCE would actually look like.

They also do not explain why people today are so fragmented after severe trauma. The articles likewise do not speculate or give any solutions for this emotional medical nightmare.

That was not the purpose(s) of the articles, so naturally they would not focus on such things.

(cont.)