Oh. My. G-word. You are kidding, right? Job? You can't be serious. You are comparing yourself with Job? Really?
"Has thou considered my servant bbyrd?"
Yes, but we aren't comparing my sanctity with Job's, you obtuse little man; we are examining what an evil spirit may do with a person--one with discernment, I might add. Get a clue.
Yes, but we aren't comparing my sanctity with Job's, you obtuse little man; we are examining what an evil spirit may do with a person--one with discernment, I might add. Get a clue.
OK, sorry. Guess I read too much into it.
So, you are saying that demons do have power over people. They can harm them. Even someone with discernment, apparently.
And are you also saying that this kind of thing (demons giving people boils, etc.) can happen today? Does it happen today?
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So, you are saying that demons do have power over people. They can harm them. Even someone with discernment, apparently.
And are you also saying that this kind of thing (demons giving people boils, etc.) can happen today? Does it happen today?
Well, I dislike this immediate descent into the physical, when they act spiritually. The physical manifestation results from actions taken in the spiritual plane. While I don't see why what happened to Job might not be possible with anyone, admittedly he was a special case, having earned special testing.
And obviously, he graduated. For most of us, however, the lessons are much more mundane, although still relative to Job. Do you ever lose your temper? Trust that whatever brought you to that point was a test that you failed, and demons were allowed to administer it. I get them all the time, from you even, and I either pass or fail them.
Your Q amounts to "are we in Heaven yet?" to me,
so i suspect you are either being disingenuous again,
or have followed Prax off the rails. What kind of Q is this, anyway?
"Do we need to beware of evil spirits anymore?"
duh. the Q is, can you recognize, discern an evil spirit
when it offers you an evil choice, in your next decision.
An evil spirit is what one gets in the sin unto death,
which is essentially refusing to be taught the next lesson.
Well, I dislike this immediate descent into the physical, when they act spiritually. The physical manifestation results from actions taken in the spiritual plane. While I don't see why what happened to Job might not be possible with anyone, admittedly he was a special case, having earned special testing.
That reminds me. I owe someone a book report on "Job".
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And obviously, he graduated. For most of us, however, the lessons are much more mundane, although still relative to Job. Do you ever lose your temper? Trust that whatever brought you to that point was a test that you failed, and demons were allowed to administer it.
Sigh.
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I get them all the time, from you even,
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and I either pass or fail them.
Your Q amounts to "are we in Heaven yet?" to me,
so i suspect you are either being disingenuous again,
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or have followed Prax off the rails.
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What kind of Q is this, anyway?
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"Do we need to beware of evil spirits anymore?"
duh. the Q is, can you recognize, discern an evil spirit
when it offers you an evil choice, in your next decision.
An evil spirit is what one gets in the sin unto death,
which is essentially refusing to be taught the next lesson.
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Really, this whole approach is off;
we, even Christians, are much more
comfortable with satan than with Christ;
it is what we come from.
I could provide endless examples,
that would all surely just rate another smilie from you,
because we have been raised with them;
they are a part of us.
Either I am possessed of certain evil spirits,
or I am perfect.
We follow a path that will rid us of our possessions.
Of course, no Christian wants to admit this.
I was under the impression that all forms of sickness were spirits.
Mark 9:25
When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him.
Also I don't see why someone aspiring to be christian would deny having spirits in them. Mary had seven in her herself.
I kind of look at it like a craving for food. Everynow and then I will be sitting around and bam I want pizza. I know I didn't just think that up out of the blue but the body and spirit are two seperate things and the flesh wanted a pizza.
Same way with a demonic spirit. Like when asked a question and someone lies about it off the top of their head. It just comes to you, we've all been there. Or when your all alone driving down the street and a beautiful woman or man crosses the street and for some reason you have a lustful thought. It's not that you wanted to or that it came from yourself its just it popped in there. I believe that is demonic. That's why my turning to christianity from asatru was so baffling to me. Those thoughts that I were having just seemed to simply vanish for a while (when I was all pumped up and ready to go for the lord, but as I slacked, the thoughts came back and I can notice how I'm affected mentally whether I am going to church or not.) Like a car battery.
I believe demonic possession and things of that sort are something we as christians should be very very aware of and vigilant not to get tricked into believing otherwise.
Matthew 24:24
"For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible."
So if man as a false christ or prophet could decieve the elect if it were possible. How much more so could a couple of thousand year old spirits decieve and twist our thoughts. Simply by making suggestions that we percieve to be our own?
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