Sometimes I say what I mean and other times I mean what I say and still others I don't know what the heck I mean......
......BUT in this case you can be sure that there are SOME (and I doubt they will prevail here) who believe that HIS punishment for killing the perp should be worse than what the perp ever would have received had he gone to trial. THAT is what I am really trying to get at here, the moral equivalency that many have for someone committing a crime versus someone trying to prevent one.
Gotcha.
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Ever heard of the National Council of La Raza? They are all over Southern Arizona. They are the KKK (except worse) of Mexicans. They would charge the father with a hate crime in an instant.
I have heard of La Raza, but I dind't realize their reputation was so bad.
Randy, you are just one person. I am 100% sure that not only do you believe what you posted, but millions more do too, and not just about La Raza.
I am not trying to hijack this thread at all, but there are some bad feelings in our country, from your perspective and not just from mine, that needs to be aired out and dealt with before it turns to cancer.
The fact that this conversation is even taking place in the context of ths thread confirms to me that our country needs more open dialogue, and maybe even policy change (as painful and unpopular it may seem at first.)
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Well, the little girl was checked out at a local clinic afterwards so it is safe to assume that they found "proof", other than the fathers word.
Is it "safe"?
I am just wary of situations like this.
At the expense of being gross, I hope there is some kind of proof that solidifies without doubt that what the father said happened really happened.
If there isn't any proof to back up his claim, imagine the implications of having a society where we can kill each other at will, and as long as there aren't any witnesses, and as long as we can come up with the right story, we can kill with impunity.
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At the expense of being gross, I hope there is some kind of proof that solidifies without doubt that what the father said happened really happened.
Personally, I hope there was NOT enough physical "proof" to back his assertion. Hopefully he pulled the guy off before any real damage was done.
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If there isn't any proof to back up his claim, imagine the implications of having a society where we can kill each other at will, and as long as there aren't any witnesses, and as long as we can come up with the right story, we can kill with impunity.
There were other people in the vicinity of the barn who can no doubt attest to the father hearing the girl screaming before he ran to her rescue.
The truth is, ANY self-defense case that ends in murder will have at least some of the facts obscured unless there was another party or parties present to witness the event. In many cases, only the victim and perpetrator are present so you will have only the victim's word as to what occurred. It isn't a perfect system, but on the flip side, it would be a deadly mistake to take away the rights of people to defend themselves, their children/loved ones and their property. As long as there's no evidence that shows the account is likely to be false, no charges can (or should) be filed against the person allegedly defending themselves.
Additionally, 4 year olds can be surprisingly articulate. It's not like the little girl is an infant who can't speak or understand that she was being attacked. I'm sure her account will also support the father's story, and I'm equally sure her testimony will be kept 100% private from the public.
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Whether four or fourteen - it's not possible they could consent. The age of consent in Missouri and in Texas is 17.
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To be fair, JD makes a valid point here. We really do not have enough information to make a rational judgment, only what little the media is reporting. This is such a terrible thing if it is true, it is easy to have immediate judgment on a suspected child molester.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_9cSYw_JgE
Let's take the example of the Trayvon Martin case where the reporting was quite dubious. We are assuming that what the media is reporting is true, but maybe we should wait and see if more facts will come out in this case.
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