Obama Supporter: Name 3 Logical Reasons to Reelect

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Sam, how can you call yourself a christian minister and promote these racist lies? I doubt your christianity.

Racist lies? What did his post have to do with race? Typical leftist tactic, ignore the real argument and drag out the straw man of racism.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Sam, how can you call yourself a christian minister and promote these racist lies? I doubt your christianity.

I don't consider those three beliefs to be "racist lies." Those are my opinions and I don't see why anyone would consider them to be "racist." Based on Barack Obama's political background in Chicago, his "big guvment" or "nanny state" policies, and his "promotion" of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the Al Queda rebels in Libya, those are conclusions at which I have arrived. Your opinions and conclusions may differ from mine.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Racist lies? What did his post have to do with race? Typical leftist tactic, ignore the real argument and drag out the straw man of racism.

Well, first of all I don't know who Dedicated Mind is since I doubt that is his/her real name. I have no idea what race or ethnic group he or she belongs to. That comment may have been posted as a joke because many use the "racist" label to identify anyone who disagrees with his/her opinion. I use my name and picture and my picture appears to be "white" or "anglo" or "caucasian" or "cracker" or "honky" or whatever the current term may be

Secondly, after living more than three score and ten years I have reached the conclusion that usually only racists will shrilly cry "RACIST" or "RACISM."

Thirdly, I am a Christian because of who Jesus Christ is and what He has done for me and in me. I was justified/saved/born again at the age of 17 in Union Grove, Wisconsin on a Monday night, March 28, 1955 when I asked Jesus Christ into my life and He accepted my invitation and came in to dwell as the Holy Spirit. I have been a minister/servant of God for over half a century. All of this is through the grace of God.

[canam]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Racist lies? What did his post have to do with race? Typical leftist tactic, ignore the real argument and drag out the straw man of racism.

old debate tactic

[canam]

Originally Posted by Sam

I don't consider those three beliefs to be "racist lies." Those are my opinions and I don't see why anyone would consider them to be "racist." Based on Barack Obama's political background in Chicago, his "big guvment" or "nanny state" policies, and his "promotion" of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the Al Queda rebels in Libya, those are conclusions at which I have arrived. Your opinions and conclusions may differ from mine.

deluded mind wont see that

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Sam, how can you call yourself a christian minister and promote these racist lies? I doubt your christianity.

DM - I have had my disagreements with Sam over the years, but he is a Christian gentleman.
I have also had some disagreements with you, but find this post to be atypical of your usual postings.
For you to insinuate that he is a racist is a low blow that is beneath you.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

DM - I have had my disagreements with Sam over the years, but he is a Christian gentleman.
I have also had some disagreements with you, but find this post to be atypical of your usual postings.
For you to insinuate that he is a racist is a low blow that is beneath you.

give DM the benefit of the doubt. He/she may have said that tongue in cheek....

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Nothing of the sort can happen without Congress.

If you want to guide the path of our country, be more concerned about Congress.

Unilaterally, the President can only do so much.


It's election time and the "Obama is the boogey man rhetoric" from Bortz and some other guy that comes on talk radio (maybe Maxwell?) is nauseating.

There's no room for a balanced, moderate, America loving Conservative.


I plan to vote for Obama with these factors in mind:

1) It was IMPOSSIBLE for our country to come out in "tip-top shape" after four years regardless of who was elected for President. For inheriting leadership of a country that was leading the fight in two wars and on the brink of the worst national financial catastrophe since the Great Depression, Obama and Congress has obviously done a few things right or else things wold be much, much worse.

The cards dealt to Obama were challenging for sure. I predicted back in 2008 that the policies BO espoused in the campaign would further exacerbate a failing economy. I believe things could've been and should've been much, much better. The recovery has been the worst recovery in US history. No credible economist points to the stimulus as successful. The fact that this president has failed to lead on the debt crisis, appointing a blue ribbon commission (Bowles-Simpson) that crafted a truly bipartisan proposal to fix the debt delimma and then not supporting a single recommendation, is evidence he is not serious about how our debt is putting this nation in grave danger. Last August during the debt ceiling controversy, the prez showed no concerns that increasing the debt was a real problem. He has offered no serious spending cut proposals, only to offer more tax ideas that he labels as "taxes on millionaires and billionaires" but in reality taxes small business owners too who make considerably less than millionaires and billionaires. This economy has survived to this point in spite of Obama. I can't think of a single economic policy he has supported and in acted that has helped create jobs and produced confidence for business owners to move forward. And Obamacare is purely a disaster.

2) The American auto industry has GOD, President Obama, and Congressional Democrats to thank for their thriving existence today as most conservatives were willing to let these industries fail. I am glad they didn't fold.

I wish GM would've folded. I own two of their products and I will never buy another GM product ever again. Pure junk. My Yokun has had three transmissions and needs a new one. My Durango has had two trannies and needs another. Time will tell if they learned their lesson and they actually produce something worth driving. I won't gamble with them again. Ever. Capitalism has to have losers, otherwise winners don't get rewarded for producing quality products and operating with a superior business plan. I don't know I'd call GM thriving. I'd call them surviving on an artificial respirator.


3) With the political instability that has happened in the world in the last four years, I am glad that Obama has demonstrated wise and measured responses. I am disappointed on all parties' silence on what's going on in Syria, but I am not sure of the financial wisdom of getting America involved there and I am sure that politically it would be a disaster for Obama's base. As for Romney, I don't think Romney has any fight in him. He's trying to appeal to as many Democrats and Indies as possible, that means he is going to do all that he can to appear like Obama-- which won't be hard for him at all.

You have no evidence what Romney would do. I will credit BO for drawing down and ending the conflict in Iraq. But that doesn't tip the scale in his favor with the "apology tour" in his first year, his disrespect for the Israeli prime minister, the unwillingness to support Mubarak in Egypt, a proven friend and stabilizer in the Mid-East.

4) He delayed Keystone, but if there aren't any MAJOR environmental consequences to the project, then I am sure that he will move forward with it. Absent any major environmental consequences, he would be foolish to not move forward with Keystone.

I am certain he WILL NOT move forward with Keystone, with a caveat. Should gas prices rise or stay high, he might approve Keystone to remove further evidence that he has no serious energy plan to bring down prices and our dependency on foreign sources of oil. He is on record saying that he would bankrupt coal burning power plants, his energy secretary is on record saying that gas prices should be high and he has an EPA official bragging about how they crucify oil companies to intimidate them.


5) I like Obama, and I Romney is the one candidate that I refuse to support-- regardless of his running mate.

I like Obama. Seems like a nice guy. He's been a horrible president. He is an ideologue who espouses leftist, big government, socialist, unconstitutional, debt-increasing, anti-business policies. A second term would be disastrous for America. If you refuse to vote for Romney on honesty grounds, then you must be ignoring the plethora of dishonest statements BO has made throughout his presidency and even beforehand. Your blind support and the logic behind that support of Obama is perplexing.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Sam, how can you call yourself a christian minister and promote these racist lies? I doubt your christianity.

If you're trying to be funny, not funny. If you're serious, you're a nut.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Sam

I don't consider those three beliefs to be "racist lies." Those are my opinions and I don't see why anyone would consider them to be "racist." Based on Barack Obama's political background in Chicago, his "big guvment" or "nanny state" policies, and his "promotion" of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and the Al Queda rebels in Libya, those are conclusions at which I have arrived. Your opinions and conclusions may differ from mine.

saying barak obama wants to promote islamic influence and power is race baiting at the very least. why not call john mccain a promoter of islamic influence since he supported action in libya and egypt. we did nothing in egypt. libya was a multinational effort supported by many republicans in defense of democracy where people are muslim. would you rather have supported dictatorship and genocide? this is not the first time you make racist insinuations or jokes. i am not tongue in cheek, i don't consider you a christian brother with those distorted views. explain what obama should have done in libya.