Arizona Debate tonight

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by crakjak

What do you not get??? Obama ignored the danger to the Iraqi people, and withdrew the troops, the conditions on the ground did not support the timetable, I don't care who set the table. We don't know if Bush would have withdrawn them or not, it was just a target, the current President could have extended it, he is in charge now and responsible. Bottom line, we went to war and did not complete the job, and Obama will get the blame as Iraq goes up in flames, and he should.

The Iraqi Government wanted us to leave in the timetable set by President Bush. Do you think we should have stayed there against their will?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Twisp

The Iraqi Government wanted us to leave in the timetable set by President Bush. Do you think we should have stayed there against their will?

Do you think Japan wanted General MacAuther to stay?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Do you think Japan wanted General MacAuther to stay?

You're not answering the question, lol.

[Pressing-On]

Fact-Check: Did Romney Lie About Cardinal and Contraception During Wednesday Debate?

In the Republican Presidential debate Wednesday evening at about 8:50pm or so, former Gov. Mitt Romney said he never infringed on the rights of Catholics as governor of Massachusetts by requiring the Catholic Church to provide morning-after pills to rape victims–it was “entirely voluntary” on the part of the Catholic Church.

If providing morning-after pills was “voluntary” on the part of the Catholic Church, then that would mean that Cardinal O’Malley volunteered to have Catholic hospitals give out abortifacients.

That is simply not true.

http://bostoncatholicinsider.wordpre...nesday-debate/

[Pressing-On]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSWbjdMh17c

I liked Gingrich's answer at the end of the debate:

KING: I want to close with this question: Help the voters who still have questions about you. What is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now?

GINGRICH: I think that the fact is that the American public are really desperate to find somebody who can solve real problems. I think that’s why it’s been going up and down and why you have got all sorts of different folks as front-runners.

And all I can say is that my background of having actually worked with President Reagan, then having been Speaker, if there was one thing I wish the American people could know about me, it would be the amount of work it took to get to welfare reform, a balanced budget, a 4.2 percent unemployment rate, and that you’ve got to have somebody who can actually get it done in Washington, not just describe it on the campaign trail.

http://historymusings.wordpress.com/...th-gop-debate/

And here is Romney, of course, avoiding the answer:

ROMNEY: We’ve got to restore America’s promise in this country where people know that with hard work and education, that they’re going to be secure and prosperous and that their kids will have a brighter future than they’ve had. For that to happen, we’re going to have to have dramatic fundamental change in Washington, D.C., we’re going to have to create more jobs, have less debt, and shrink the size of the government.

I’m the only person in this race –

KING: Is there a misconception about you? The question is a misconception.

ROMNEY: You know, you get to ask the questions want, I get to give the answers I want. Fair enough?

Ugh!! That is how he is going to govern. Ughhhhhhhhhhhh! I just can't wait - NOT!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Twisp

You're not answering the question, lol.

I think we do war stupidly. Bush went in with best of intents, with the support of the UN and almost 100% of Congress. Then as usual the leftists use the war as a political weapon, which I consider treason. They undermined the power of the US to solve the problems, and in the process we give the Iraqis the power to make decisions that they should not have had.

So, the answer is not simple. We should not have been in the position of the Iraqis having the decision making power.

More directly, if we are not going to support a full and unqualified victory, then don't go to war.

War is hell, and not a spectator sport. As a very successful general once said, you go in and hit them with everything you've got. More die initially, but then you have a basis to rebuild with control and order. And the enemy is not given the power to do anything but what they are told.

We now lack the courage to do war the right way, and only when we have to do so. If you go, go do the job, take the spoils, pay for the war, and then set up a government with people that will do what is right for the citizens of the nation, so that they have an opportunity for a new start.

The US hasn't won a war since WWII, Korea is a disaster, Vietnam was lost, now the Middle is turning into another disaster.