What Scripture Had The Most Profound Effect On You

[Cindy]

The verses in my signature line, among others.

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27 KJV

[Aquila]

Jeremiah 29:11

[Nitehawk013]

When I read a more fair translation of Hebrews 13:17(?) where it says to obey them that have the rule over you and it explained that "obey" meant "be persuaded". It opened my eyes to a lot. We are not expected to just shut up and obey anyone just bc they have a title and are "over us". That person has the responsibility to persuade me to obey him. This opened a can of worms that I still wrestle with. I hate the power hungry folks at the top of most churches who scream "rebellious" whenever I or someone like me disagrees with them or brings a different scriptural point of view to them.

[bbyrd009]

It is our premises in reading this story that are incorrect, not its translation. We fatally assume that God desires to display His might pointlessly and capriciously, revealing what we would do. God wanted a witness to the Egyptians, who worshipped Pharoah, and suffered for that, not because of our twisted motives that we place on Him. It is easy to forget that Pharoah considered himself equal to God, with his people's blessing, and even worship.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

When I read a more fair translation of Hebrews 13:17(?) where it says to obey them that have the rule over you and it explained that "obey" meant "be persuaded". It opened my eyes to a lot. We are not expected to just shut up and obey anyone just bc they have a title and are "over us". That person has the responsibility to persuade me to obey him. This opened a can of worms that I still wrestle with. I hate the power hungry folks at the top of most churches who scream "rebellious" whenever I or someone like me disagrees with them or brings a different scriptural point of view to them.

Amen. God can make blind servants from rocks. Run (spiritually) from those who are afraid...of dissent, or anything else for that matter. Recognize that if your truthful witness will bring howls from them, then your mission is to go back next...church day, and double down. With love. Good on ya.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Well, that's an interesting thought. What do you suppose God's word on this story really might be? How wrong do you think Exodus is, in the Bibles we have today?

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

It is our premises in reading this story that are incorrect, not its translation. We fatally assume that God desires to display His might pointlessly and capriciously, revealing what we would do. God wanted a witness to the Egyptians, who worshipped Pharoah, and suffered for that, not because of our twisted motives that we place on Him. It is easy to forget that Pharoah considered himself equal to God, with his people's blessing, and even worship.

Um, oops, wrong thread. Then again, maybe not.