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Old 12-21-2011, 09:15 PM
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Re: Glenn Beck: I'll Take Ron Paul Over Newt Gingr

Have any of you paid attention to Ron's foreign policy?

Or paid attention to what his supporters say?
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:08 AM
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Re: Glenn Beck: I'll Take Ron Paul Over Newt Gingr

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Have any of you paid attention to Ron's foreign policy?

Or paid attention to what his supporters say?


Another media-swayed person, are you? So, what's the deal with his foreign policy?

And just what do his supporters say?
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Old 12-22-2011, 07:24 AM
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No I'm not swayed by the media. I've watched at least 4 of these debates full length and saw the clip with Paul. Plus been following him politically since 2007. His stock is way down IMO.
The clip of Paul? If you have a link, I'd be interested in viewing it.

He's been around for as long as many of us on this forum have been, if not longer. For the last 30-something years in politics alone, his message has been consistent on what can bring liberty to every American citizen. He's spoken about things that have come to pass as a result of not keeping personal liberty in our best interest, not to make him out to be any kind of political "prophet" or whatever. But, so many people nail him on his foreign policy. For what?

I honestly believe Americans have been brainwashed (from the political mothership, the nanny, big brother, etc) into thinking going to war with another country is among the first things we should do when another country isn't behaving. Absolute nonsense...
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Have any of you paid attention to Ron's foreign policy?

Or paid attention to what his supporters say?
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Another media-swayed person, are you? So, what's the deal with his foreign policy?

And just what do his supporters say?

I may have to backtrack on my original post.

I need to look into his foreign policy views a bit more. I did find this interesting:
http://www.cfr.org/experts/world/ron-paul/b13303#19

As to some of his supporters: I can not agree with the legalization of pot for one thing.
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..........But, so many people nail him on his foreign policy. For what?

I honestly believe Americans have been brainwashed (from the political mothership, the nanny, big brother, etc) into thinking going to war with another country is among the first things we should do when another country isn't behaving. Absolute nonsense...
I don't know anyone that wants to go to war first thing. War should only be prosecuted when diplomatic means can not solve a violent/threatening issue.
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I may have to backtrack on my original post.

I need to look into his foreign policy views a bit more. I did find this interesting:
http://www.cfr.org/experts/world/ron-paul/b13303#19

As to some of his supporters: I can not agree with the legalization of pot for one thing.
The pot legalization issue is something I'm still pondering. In my citizens' police academy class, we were told pot is considered to be a gateway drug. Supposedly, once someone tries it, they like it, and want something more. I don't know since I've never smoked it, let alone smoke a cigarette. I can't say whether it is a gateway drug to others far worse or not...

However, when speaking of the fact that alcohol is legal makes me almost want pot legalized since its immediate effects are opposite to that of alcohol in general (just my observation).

Do we ever hear in the news media (not that they are all that reliable, but FWIW) that pot was found to be the reason someone killed another person in a car wreck or walking down the sidewalk? No, because of it's more reputable calming effects as opposed to alcohol's more reputable raging effects. Yet, alcohol is still legal...

From a financial/spending standpoint, is the war on drugs, specifically marijuana, worth the cost when what's anticipated as an outcome (to reduce drug use and trafficking) isn't what we're seeing? If it was, then there would be no need for the drug war against pot. As for the other more serious drugs, all the more reason to secure our borders to reduce the easiness of them from creeping into our streets and homes. Mexico is not the main source for the worse drugs. Afghanistan is. Regardless, secure borders would likely reduce the drug war and its associated financial mess in trying to stop them from entering in...
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Re: Glenn Beck: I'll Take Ron Paul Over Newt Gingr

Do remember that the "pot legalization" thing revolves around the federal governments intrusion into state issues. Individual states can do what they want. What we are talking about is whether this is a federal issue or not.

When people hear RP is wanting to get rid of the Department of Education, for instance, they say "What will we do about schools?" etc. The deal is this. There are plenty of ways to handle education where it should be handled... on a state & local level. Getting rid of the Deartment of Education only removes the federal government from the equation.

The same goes with pot legalization. States can make their own laws. But the federal government is finally out of the picture.
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