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Old 10-25-2011, 10:20 AM
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Re: Sin away grace?

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I can certainly see how God may get tired of granting grace, over and over again. We have to forgive 70 times 7 times, but He never promised to be that forgiving!

And that fellow also gave some examples of His criteria for judging people, and I'm pretty sure He was looking to the future, in the age of "grace". He mentioned believing, a few times (John 3:16, e.g.), but also had some actions (works) in mind, too. E.g., the sheep and the goats will be separated based on whether they did good works, of feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting prisoners, and housing the homeless. If you do, you will be rewarded. If you do not, you will be thrown into the everlasting fire. Matthew 25.

And some works count, and some don't. Prophesying, casting out devils, and certain (unspecified) "wonderful works" don't count. Doing the will of God counts. If you don't do the will of God, and bring forth good fruit, into the fire you go. Matthew 7.
1 Cor 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1 Cor 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are

1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Rom 1
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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Old 10-25-2011, 10:34 AM
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1 Cor 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1 Cor 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are

1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Rom 1
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:24 AM
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Re: Sin away grace?

This thread title sounds like the name of sitcom. "Sin & Grace"
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Old 10-25-2011, 12:12 PM
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I believe someone can resist the drawing of the Holy Spirit,which is dangerous because The Holy Spirit may not draw that person again.Today is the day of Salvation.
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Here's a good one: Either you is or you isn't.
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I believe someone can resist the drawing of the Holy Spirit,which is dangerous because The Holy Spirit may not draw that person again.Today is the day of Salvation.
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And I thank you very much.
I think any bible scholar can identify with what Paul is trying so hard to tell the new Jewish converts. That the keeping of the law will not perfect you it will only make you religious. Paul is putting forth his best efforts to try and make people see, if you are truly born again by the power of Jesus Christ then you have died and been resurrected by that same power unto newness of life. That simply means you are a new creature even though when you look into your bathroom mirror you look like your old self.
Many years ago my beloved mentor said to me, time and time again in an effort to get me to see the truth outside of the brainwashing that a pentecostal church put there, this one truth.
He said to me often, quit putting that old self in the closet and stop getting up everyday and strapping him onto your back and walking around with him. Take him outside and bury him, because he is dead and no longer exists.
I use to say to him; But if I go down and get drunk and run off with some whore and spend the night I can't possible be still saved. His reply was; if that's what you 'REALLY' want to do then there is a good chance that you might not be saved to begin with.
I struggled with this for a long time until one day by spiritual revelation from Jesus, he showed me the truth. That cost me a lot throughout the years even today. But I know without any doubt where my spirit rests. But most of all, I know what my true nature really is, and should I forget in a time of dispare, then the Holy Ghost is there with me to remind me of who I am in Christ Jesus. It is my prayer to the Lord that everybody could get what I got so they would be at peace with themselves as well as with Jesus and those in their church.
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