How can we say that God is just and perfect in His ways and then say He sent tornados (to tornado alley of all places) and allowed two baby boys to be violently killed?
God is just and perfect and if He was going to send judgement for what the president said, then I think 1600 Pensylvania Ave. would be the right place.
That would send a message alot more clear then Joplin Mo.
And why is the fact that there has been no movement of borders addressed?
Is God now the thought police? Does He now send judgement for something that might happen????
You tell 'em Sandie. God, IMO, isn't so arbitrary that he sends judgement upon the innocent for the actions of the guilty. He saved Noah and his family from the flood. Delivered Lot from Sodom before the judgement.
Maybe its time to update the photo I posted...
OA, Sandie, Timmy
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You tell 'em Sandie. God, IMO, isn't so arbitrary that he sends judgement upon the innocent for the actions of the guilty. He saved Noah and his family from the flood. Delivered Lot from Sodom before the judgement.
Maybe its time to update the photo I posted...
OA, Sandie, Timmy
Very good point.
I can imagine a violent tornado hovering just above the WH sending a message that would be hard to ignore and make much more sense.
My Pastor preached a message today "God Has His Way In The Whirlwind". I had no idea what he would say about this. He showed how that the weather is controlled by God. He said that God is sending disasters against America because of its sins and that this is just the beginning. Thank God for someone who knows the God of the Bible.
He said the same God that so loved the world he gave his only Son is the same God who sends tornados. This is true. In the end time the fear of God will be restored. This is essential that the Church would take God seriously. As it stands many of his people stand with the world against God in things that he does. Our thinking must be turned to know him as he is.
umm your pastor is off his rocker.
and you are to if you believe him
Jesus states something on this very subject out of the gospel of Luke
Luke 13
Repent or Perish
1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
Jesus states here that death and tragedy can come to anyone. and that these people who are in these tragedies are no worse off than anyother people. then he gives the lecture to repent.
sorry michael you preacher is bending the word to make a sermon
Gods not sending storms to punish america cause one man stated they want israel to push back its boarders. These storms have happened over centuries.
and just Like it raines on the just and the unjust tragedy also falls on the just and the unjust.
While I support Israel, God did not send the tornadoes as judgment. That was a part of the nature of this corrupt world we live in, that death comes to young and old. Our judgment will be before Christ Himself, His throne.
We do not need to see everything as demonic that happens bad, nor do we need to see every catastrophe as God's judgment.
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Jesus states something on this very subject out of the gospel of Luke
Luke 13
Repent or Perish
1 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
Jesus states here that death and tragedy can come to anyone. and that these people who are in these tragedies are no worse off than anyother people. then he gives the lecture to repent.
sorry michael you preacher is bending the word to make a sermon
Gods not sending storms to punish america cause one man stated they want israel to push back its boarders. These storms have happened over centuries.
and just Like it raines on the just and the unjust tragedy also falls on the just and the unjust.
You are not understanding Jesus words. He said they were not sinners ABOVE ALL OTHER sinners. God could punish sinners at any time and be just. He warns his hearers to repent or the same could happen to them.
No actually David Huston was not bending the word but used scripture showing "whirlwind" in scripture is the same as the word the Hebrews use today for "tornado".
By the way HE did not make the Israel-Obama point in his message just the point that they are sent by God as acts of warning or judgment.
I wont associate him with the World Net Daily article since hes not aware of this discussion.
While I support Israel, God did not send the tornadoes as judgment. That was a part of the nature of this corrupt world we live in, that death comes to young and old. Our judgment will be before Christ Himself, His throne.
We do not need to see everything as demonic that happens bad, nor do we need to see every catastrophe as God's judgment.
Hi Bill,
How do you know he never sent the tornados? So you deny God judges in the affairs of men today?
You are not understanding Jesus words. He said they were not sinners ABOVE ALL OTHER sinners. God could punish sinners at any time and be just. He warns his hearers to repent or the same could happen to them.
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o yes i understand what he was saying. i dont think you want to come to grasp with what he was saying.
The disciples of Jesus were looking at these 18 people as being Judged by God, when jesus said that they were just like any sinner in jerusalem.
now to say that God is sending tornados to america for having obama declare israel to go back to there 1967 boarders is dumb.
If God is not a respector of person then why not value the lives of those in the tornados as for those who are in israel?
there sinners just the same. again like i said it raines on the Just and the unjust,
tragedy falls on the just and the unjust. cause if that was the case, why would practically all the apostles been marytred.. why couldnt they die a peaceful death?
why did they have to be beat and tourtured? were they judged? of course not
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