Do You Believe in Women Pastors?

[Sister Alvear]

NOW for my personal opinion...God give us men...

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I doubt if I was God's first choice...however because He chose I will be faithful...I am a missionary whatever that may mean to you...
My pastor is a man...this week guess I am the pastor or something around here as Brother Alvear is traveling...will be glad when he gets home...My hand is blistered from breaking bricks my foot has a blister from I guess a bite of something that got in my shoe while clearing and cleaning land for our youth camp...
Many places in our world women are treading into the darkness of Satan's domain...I bless them and pray for them.
While some sit in air conditioned buildings...many women as well as men are just trying to make Jesus known...many people have no idea about American church structure...they meet in houses...and where ever...their lives are in danger...

Bless your heart, Sis. Alvear, but this post or any other (I don't believe) are an indictment on your personal ministry.

It's far easier and productive to talk about the topic aside from it being personal.

I admire and honor your dedication and work for God overseas.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

NOW for my personal opinion...God give us men...

Why? Ar they really needed?

[Sister Alvear]

yes, they are really needed and I have great respect for the men of God in my life. I have no trouble looking up to male leadership...some of the leadership in the work here are men that I personally won to the Lord many years ago...I have no problem respecting their call or authority.

[Socialite]

I guess I was wondering if you felt there should be primarily male leadership. If you did, I'd be curious about why you feel that way.

I assume, from your posts over time, you don't have problems with pastors because they are men.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I don't see how a woman can a be a husband of one wife which is a qualification for a bishop.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I don't see how a woman can a be a husband of one wife which is a qualification for a bishop.

Thanks for chiming in, Scott!

That word "bishop" is really another word that means "overseer" which can definitely include elder, pastor, etc.

Combining Titus 3 and 1 Timothy, here's a list of requirements:

Here is a list I made that combines the two lists in Timothy and Titus:

* Be above reproach (Titus & Timothy)

* Husband of one wife (Titus & Timothy)

* Self-Controlled (Titus & Timothy)

* Hospitable (Titus & Timothy)

* Not a drunkard (Titus & Timothy)

* Not violent (Titus)

* Not violent but gentle (Timothy)

* Sober-minded (Timothy)

* Upright (Titus)

* Respectable (Timothy)

* Able to teach (Timothy)

* Not quarrelsome (Timothy)

* Not greedy for gain (Titus)

* Not a lover of money (Timothy)

* His children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination (Titus)

* Manages his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive (Timothy)

* Not a recent convert (Timothy)

* Must be well thought of by outsiders (Timothy)

* Not arrogant (Titus)

* Not quick tempered (Titus)

* A lover of good (Titus)

* Holy (Titus)

* Disciplined (Titus)

* Holds firm to the trustworthy word (Titus)

[Scott Hutchinson]

You never find a woman listed in the oversight positions in the bible.I do see Phobe called a servant in Romans,but the scriptures don't say too much about what she was.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I don't see how a woman can a be a husband of one wife which is a qualification for a bishop.

Any chance it is a command against re-marriage or a statement against a plural marriage (three's a crowd)?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

You never find a woman listed in the oversight positions in the bible.I do see Phobe called a servant in Romans,but the scriptures don't say too much about what she was.

The Greek word used by Paul for Phoebe in Romans 16:1 is diakonon a form of diakonos (Strongs no. 1249) which is translated as:

servant, Matthew 20:26; 22:13; 23:11, Mark 9:35, John 2:5 , 9; 12:26, Romans 16:1; Colossians 1:7

minister Mark 10:43, Romans 13:4; 15:8, 1 Cor 3:5, 2 Cor. 3:6; 6:4; 11:15, 23; Gal 2:17, Ephesians 3:7; 6:21; Colossians 1:23, 25; 4:7, 1 Thess 3:2, 1 Timothy 4:6

deacon Philippians 1:1; 1 Tim 38, 12