The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Your options weren't. I prefer options that reflect the word of God above those that reflect ones interpretation thereof.

And... less than 2% polling does not a clear picture make.

You wanted to be shocked. The whole reason for the thread is that you were already convinced.

You have proved apathy. That is all. If that is shocking then be shocked. Otherwise... it is an exercise in futility.

Apathy with MTD's polls at that. Hardly a pulse of people passion for the Missio Dei.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Apathy with MTD's polls at that. Hardly a pulse of people passion for the Missio Dei.

Indeed.

If I present a poll and the majority of the forum considers me or my poll and "eye roller" then that makes no statements about the forum as a whole.

[BeenThinkin]

This kind of post by MTD makes "Oneness" look bad and confusing. This kind of diatribe has to be especially confusing to outsiders! It sure is to me! But, maybe I'm not as sharp as MTD.

BT

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

What? Is this supposed to be sophisticated satire?

I like you, Mike.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its only complex because you all are making it complex. Most certainly the scriptures teach that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament. He was the only one who was God and the only one who was the Father.

If Jesus is him he is God the Father.

And most certainly ALL Oneness writers and I repeat ALL taught this. All the Oneness books I have ever read were teaching this. If anyone has a Oneness Pentecostal Book written lets say before 2005 and they do not promote Jesus as God the Father please let me know.

Dont worry you wont find one.

My question was not asking about whether Jesus is the Son of God. No one denies that.

Oneness doctrine has always taught Jesus is both Father and Son.

The revisionists are at work trying to make people believe this is not true.

Understanding an eternal God, who became a man yet remained fully God...not complex at all.

I can't believe that we are making this so complex.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Men have only struggled with this for the last 2,000 years if only they had MTD to 'splain it to them.

There are no revisionists you are just too blind to see what has been put in front of your face 40 times.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Understanding an eternal God, who became a man yet remained fully God...not complex at all.

I can't believe that we are making this so complex.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Men have only struggled with this for the last 2,000 years if only they had MTD to 'splain it to them.

There are no revisionists you are just too blind to see what has been put in front of your face 40 times.

[Lively Stone]

I know Jesus as the Father and Jesus as the Son Jesus as the Holy Ghost and all these three are One!

[BroMatt]

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Yea, how is it that something described as great mystery could be so complex?

I didn't see the poll, but I would not have agreed with the wording so it makes no difference had I seen it, I would not have voted.

My wife and I are one. Jesus said that He and the Father are one. My wife is not me. Just an example of how wording makes a difference.

[seekerman]

Actually, it doesn't matter if one views Jesus as the Father or not. It's not a salvation issue.

It's just something to argue about.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Really.

I thought your point was AFF was anti-oneness.

Apathy for not wanting to vote does not equal to anti-oneness.

What I actually said was the FLOW of this forum is anti Oneness. Meaning that if one looks at posts that ARE made concerning the Godhead MANY of them are anti Oneness. We have Trinitarians, Arians hammering away at peoples faith. Some that were Oneness are not any more.

The anti's are very vocal and if one actually DOES READ threads on the Godhead you see that they are getting more amens all the time.

So my initial statement was not even that the majority of people here are anti Oneness. It was that the FLOW of the Forum is. I think my poll showed its worse than I actually thought tho.

We now have Oneness believers who wont confess Jesus is God the Father. This is the saddest thing that has come to light.