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Old 01-09-2011, 11:09 PM
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Re: LS: " I don't buy all this rape business "

The sad thing is, many still don't report rape. Because there is always in the back of your mind, no one will believe me, or I brought it on myself. Rape is NOT about sex, it's about power and violence against another person.

To muddy this topic is a horrible disservice to victims of rape.
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Re: LS: " I don't buy all this rape business "

And it didn't matter if the woman had set out to have sex or not. Respecting one another includes the right to change their mind.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:19 PM
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And it didn't matter if the woman had set out to have sex or not. Respecting one another includes the right to change their mind.
Exactly.
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Re: LS: " I don't buy all this rape business "

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I think he feels many young ladies or older ladies will claim rape to cover for their promiscuity?

I would be more careful with this type of rhetoric ... a consenting encounter could turn into rape ...
Always find it interesting there is no real credence given to boys being raped by older women.
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Old 01-09-2011, 11:49 PM
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Always find it interesting there is no real credence given to boys being raped by older women.
I find it just as horrifying. The emotional scarring that the young men must feel.
Women can be child molesters and rapists. It is still about power and/or control. Some of the time it's someone with authority, or an authority figure.
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I find it just as horrifying. The emotional scarring that the young men must feel.
Women can be child molesters and rapists. It is still about power and/or control. Some of the time it's someone with authority, or an authority figure.
True. I know it's not as prevalent. But it does happen.
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True. I know it's not as prevalent. But it does happen.
It does, and I think it warps the victims views of what a relationship is about.
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Re: LS: " I don't buy all this rape business "

I have heard preachers come close to preaching this.
They would use the Old Testament to justify the teaching.
The part where if she doesn't cry out in the city, then it was consensual.
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Old 01-10-2011, 12:31 AM
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I have heard preachers come close to preaching this.
They would use the Old Testament to justify the teaching.
The part where if she doesn't cry out in the city, then it was consensual.
But this goes right back to the heart of why some women don't report rape. It makes them feel ashamed, that they are somehow to blame. Because we were taught that for years. It is not about what you wear, where you are, or what you are doing.
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Old 01-10-2011, 03:07 AM
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Re: LS: " I don't buy all this rape business "

I believe that it is every parents duty to somehow make sure their child knows what to do if these circumstances occur.
We have to do a better job of educating our children.
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