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05-06-2007, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Take NJ for instance since 1982 ... they've seen only 19 churches added net ... I'm sure there are some qualified men sitting in those churches ... that could open up a work ...
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And you are calling on them to?
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05-06-2007, 03:52 PM
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And you are calling on them to?
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I'm just an outside observer .... Steve ... maybe you got enough pull to effectuate change .... 
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05-06-2007, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
add nepotism .. sons and son-on-laws ... get groomed and placed first.
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Again, Ego is the driving force to not allow mentoring.
I learned more in six months of active Ministering than in 10 yrs of study. I had been to young preacher meetings and they were touchy feeley type of hype and nothing practical. None prepared me for funeral visits, or for when my best friend's Dad was brutally Murdered.
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05-06-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Again, Ego is the driving force to not allow mentoring.
I learned more in six months of active Ministering than in 10 yrs of study. I had been to young preacher meetings and they were touchy feeley type of hype and nothing practical. None prepared me for funeral visits, or for when my best friend's Dad was brutally Murdered.
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sobering ...
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05-06-2007, 03:55 PM
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I'm just an outside observer .... Steve ... maybe you got enough pull to effectuate change .... |
No I don't. To some degree I question the wisdom of having a UPCI church in every berg, given the size of the organization.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-06-2007, 03:58 PM
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sobering ...
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"Welcome to the ministry, son!"
Sadly enough my buddy wound up divorcing his wife and leaving 3 girls over the stress and I never was able to make an effective change in his life.
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05-06-2007, 04:02 PM
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"Welcome to the ministry, son!"
Sadly enough my buddy wound up divorcing his wife and leaving 3 girls over the stress and I never was able to make an effective change in his life.
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Those "You have the anointing" and "You are a Levite" messages/teachings ... can go so far ...
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05-07-2007, 07:01 AM
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bump ... DOES ANYONE HAVE CURRENT STATISTICS???
PP???
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05-07-2007, 08:10 AM
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My observations are the churches in our area are about the same in number that they were 20 years ago whne one has a great addition that means others have had a subtraction. They have been recycling saints for years.
I do not see a growth or reduction about the same.
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05-07-2007, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
My observations are the churches in our area are about the same in number that they were 20 years ago whne one has a great addition that means others have had a subtraction. They have been recycling saints for years.
I do not see a growth or reduction about the same.
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I see that you missed what was called the "all time great" message preached, hailed to be the summit of all preaching? The title of this ultimate message of all compassing wisdom was, "Send the Heffer Home."
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