Obama deleted "Creator" from Declaration of Indepe - Page 4

Jermyn Davidson · #31 09-20-2010, 06:15 PM

"OBAMA:
I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. "

If he belives this, then he can't be a Muslim either.

"Hell is the abode which Allaah (swt) has prepared for those who do not
believe in Him (swt), those who rebel against His (swt) laws and disbelieve
in His Messengers. "

http://islam.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1...heavenhell.htm

Praxeas · #32 09-20-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by canam

He is a Koran quoting muslim prayer sound loving person , who confers closely with and had as a co writer of his books, the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers then he sat under a racist preacher for 22 years Rev Wright.He loves socialism and marxism and quotes both.And you still dont know what he is ? Only the blind deaf dont realize what this guy is.

Neither Ayers nor Wright are Muslims. Identifying his politics does not identify his religion

Praxeas · #33 09-20-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

You have this insultative side to you.

You also don't understand the Muslim religion. All the children born of a Muslim male are Muslim from birth.

And that makes him a Muslim whether he wants to be one or not?

Praxeas · #34 09-20-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

So He's a Muslim that believes in God, yet you find it newsworthy that the word "Creator" is mysteriously absent from his speech? Get your story straight...

yeah that is a contradiction. Actually if he were a Muslim he would have included the word Creator and denied us any rights other than to obey the Quran if what we are led to believe is true about Islam

Praxeas · #35 09-20-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

But the more critical comments also suggest why the transcript was withheld until now.

FALSANI:
What do you believe?

OBAMA:
I am a Christian.

So, I have a deep faith. So I draw from the Christian faith.

On the other hand, I was born in Hawaii where obviously there are a lot of Eastern influences.

I lived in Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, between the ages of six and 10.

My father was from Kenya, and although he was probably most accurately labeled an agnostic, his father was Muslim.

And I’d say, probably, intellectually I’ve drawn as much from Judaism as any other faith.

(A patron stops and says, “Congratulations,” shakes his hand. “Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thank you.”)

So, I’m rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people. That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there’s an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived.

And so, part of my project in life was probably to spend the first 40 years of my life figuring out what I did believe – I’m 42 now – and it’s not that I had it all completely worked out, but I’m spending a lot of time now trying to apply what I believe and trying to live up to those values.

He has his bases covered. Judaism, Islam and Christian Tradition.

OBAMA:
I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian.

FALSANI:
Any particular flavor?

In other words....he's a politician trying to kiss everyone's rear end