Is Jesus Sitting on a Throne in His Flesh? - Page 4

SteppingStone · #31 07-20-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

...shall is now past tense?
...the dead in Christ have already risen?

You are going to have to do a much better job of explaining these things than simply stating, its all past tense. It's not past tense and shall proves it. It's not past tense and the fact that the dead in Christ have not yet risen also proves it.

There are countless threads in the eschatology section explaining this, pick one.

jfrog · #32 07-20-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SteppingStone

There are countless threads in the eschatology section explaining this, pick one.

I don't recall anyone taking the stand that the dead in Christ have already been raised.

SteppingStone · #33 07-20-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterrey

The Body of Christ today is the Doctrines and body of the Church. That is how we eat of His flesh and drink His blood. We accept the doctrines and become the Body.

There is only one Body, the Church.

If someone believes that there is a seperate body than the church, floating around in heaven somewhere, that is heresy.

Teklemarian was kicked out of the upci for divine flesh, yet we see dispensationalists still preaching divine flesh up in heaven.

Again, the ONLY body of Christ is the Church and the doctrines associated with those doctrines.

Haha!! That is harsh man but then again you are on the real front lines down there so I guess you don't have time to play patty cake.

I won't call folks with limited understanding heretics though because I was stuck in that mindset for years myself. God will reveal it to those who haven't accepted doctrines of men but continue to seek further whereas many have just settled and think they've, "Arrived."

jfrog · #34 07-20-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SteppingStone

Haha!! That is harsh man but then again you are on the real front lines down there so I guess you don't have time to play patty cake.

I won't call folks with limited understanding heretics though because I was stuck in that mindset for years myself. God will reveal it to those who haven't accepted doctrines of men but continue to seek further whereas many have just settled and think they've, "Arrived."

like you?

SteppingStone · #35 07-20-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

I don't recall anyone taking the stand that the dead in Christ have already been raised.

Well maybe you can make a thread showing us that they haven't..

SteppingStone · #36 07-20-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

like you?

Nope, I'm constantly learning new stuff and throwing out old stuff. I've been wrong about everything for 14 years..

seekerman · #37 07-20-2010, 10:41 AM

Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

TheLegalist · #38 07-20-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SteppingStone

Is Jesus Sitting on a Throne in His Flesh?
Do people pray to a flesh entity?

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Words in this passage comes from "Rhema" not "Logos."
Rhema means speech, utterance, you hear a sound.

All power and authority transferred from one promise to another, it transferred from one set of words that were spoken to another set of words that were spoken. These spoken Words are Spirit & Life, not flesh...

I would hope for a robe or something.

Aquila · #39 07-20-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SteppingStone

Jesus said, unless we eat his flesh and drink his blood we have no part in him. And many walked away. Then he turned to his disciples and asked if they were gonna leave also. Peter replied, Where are we gonna go? You have the WORDS of Eternal LIFE.

Jesus also said he was the Bread of Life. Shall we look for wafers in heaven? No, his Words are Spirit and Life.

Jesus is typed as the tree of life, do people walk up to this tree in heaven and eat flesh? Is this tree producing figs? No, this tree is producing THE WORDS OF LIFE...

So again I ask the question, how does Flesh equate to Spirit & Life?

Christ's point was that we are to partake in his sufferings memorially.

mental · #40 07-20-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Paul isn't talking about this since it happened prior to his writing